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post #1306 of 24349

I absolutely agree. The cable was way too long that I had it shortened and terminated to XLR and then used some length to make an adapter to SE as well as XLR to bananas.

post #1307 of 24349
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

I like the balance cable with the hd800 and prefer the all copper cable for their non bright presentation. That being said the hD800 stock cable is not a bad cable but the aftermarket takes the edge that I hear in silver and  silver plated cables off. Everyone is different an has different preferences but the HD800 on balanced amps need an aftermarket cable to sound best.

Agreed!

post #1308 of 24349
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Originally Posted by jronan2 View Post

Which one did you go with Maxvla?
Cheapest thing I could find. A cable from Headphone Lounge which is no longer available, solid core silver, 6 foot with custom ordered switchcraft XLR. Ran me about $100.
post #1309 of 24349

That's a bad assumption. I for one own a BMW and I find your statement wildly inaccurate for me and many other of my BMW driving friends. Because of its torque to its rear wheels, I find myself oversteering a lot even on dry pavement and new tires, exacerbated by the ever-continuing rain. All seasons don't cut it for me, and although I wouldn't be able to put down a number, I'd be more than willing to assume more than 1% would agree with me. Maybe they're an acceptable choice because of the lump sum money it saves.

 

To each his own is really a good statement.

 

I think you're assuming cables vastly changes the sound, but that's vastly incorrect. I'm sure many cable owners like Macedonian, Prep, and myself will agree that cables impart very minute differences which may or may not provide us with a better experience. If it suits your needs, I really envy you. I had to spend more of my hard earned money to purchase a custom tailored cable that suits MY needs... (which happen to not be sonic improvement)

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When you buy a BMW, it comes with high performance all-season tires. For 99% of buyers, all-season tires are the best choice.

 

I bought the HD800 for the way it sounds first and foremost. I also like the comfort and build quality. The stock cable seems to be durable and of good quality - it suits me just fine.


Edited by Girls Generation - 3/25/13 at 7:54pm
post #1310 of 24349
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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post

That's a bad assumption. I for one own a BMW and I find your statement wildly inaccurate for me and many other of my BMW driving friends. Because of its torque to its rear wheels, I find myself oversteering a lot even on dry pavement and new tires, exacerbated by the ever-continuing rain. All seasons don't cut it for me, and although I wouldn't be able to put down a number, I'd be more than willing to assume more than 1% think otherwise. Maybe they're an acceptable choice because of the lump sum money it saves.

 

To each his own is really a good statement.

 

I think you're assuming cables vastly changes the sound, but that's vastly incorrect. I'm sure many cable owners like Macedonian, Prep, and myself will agree that cables impart very minute differences which may or may not provide us with a better experience. If it suits your needs, I really envy you. I had to spend more of my hard earned money to purchase a custom tailored cable that suits MY needs... (which happen to not be sonic improvement)

 

 

Well said..

post #1311 of 24349
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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post

I don't think anyone has mentioned anything about the sonic qualities that cables impart or not -- just whether Sennheiser cut costs or designed it around their cable, and whether it suits our needs.

 

You're right, most of the cable talk has completely free of claims as to whether or not they make an audible difference (much less impressions on those differences).  And you specifically never mentioned anything of the sort.  That being said there was a little bit of baiting from the anti-cable side.  I just didn't want to see anything degenerate.  Again.

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Only when it goes down to 7C will summers grip worse than A/S, but when Canada weather gets around there, usually we already have winters on. Wildly off topic, sorry guys.

 

Remember I live a bit south of you... I don't use winters smile.gif

 

Back on topic - I ordered a Benchmark DAC1 to pair with my HD800's. It should arrive friday...

post #1313 of 24349

Our weathers are probably more similar than not though. Anyhow, I'll see you at the Seattle meet this May 4th?

 

And I applied the Anax mod 2.0 on my HD800s. It didn't do a lot but it did fix some nuances that I found were cons of the HD800. Cheers!

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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

 

Remember I live a bit south of you... I don't use winters smile.gif

 

Back on topic - I ordered a Benchmark DAC1 to pair with my HD800's. It should arrive friday...

post #1314 of 24349

I'll be there - see you then. It'll be good to compare our HD800's. I'll be sampling mine with a friend's WA3+ with NOS Chatham 2399 power tube this weekend. He says its so lifelike he feels like he can reach out and touch the musicians. We shall see...

 

Prosit!

post #1315 of 24349
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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post

Our weathers are probably more similar than not though. Anyhow, I'll see you at the Seattle meet this May 4th?

And I applied the Anax mod 2.0 on my HD800s. It didn't do a lot but it did fix some nuances that I found were cons of the HD800. Cheers!

I couldn't live with the HD800 without the Anax mod, then again there were many other problems in my system that the HD800 laid bare and which I have subsequently addressed.
post #1316 of 24349
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

I'll be there - see you then. It'll be good to compare our HD800's. I'll be sampling mine with a friend's WA3+ with NOS Chatham 2399 power tube this weekend. He says its so lifelike he feels like he can reach out and touch the musicians. We shall see...

 

Prosit!

 

2399's sound really good with HD 800, very transparent sound

 

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Edited by Dubstep Girl - 3/26/13 at 2:18am
post #1317 of 24349

Just bought the Sennheiser HD 800 and its the best decision I have made when it comes to headphones. My journey into headphones began with Koss Porta Pro, then came the B&W P5, Sennheiser Amperior, AKG K702,  Sennheiser HD 650, Hifiman HE-500, Denon AH-D7100. All of them either got returned or sold on ebay. I just could not find the sound I wanted. The most exciting of them all was the Sennheiser Amperior it was pure fun. When it comes to audiophile quality I would say the Sennhesiser HD 650 would be at the top of the list. Hifiman HE-500 suffered from channel imbalance and had a small soundstage, Denon was too much bass leaking into the mid's, B&W P5 was just like the Koss porta pro with a slightly more detail in the upper frequency, AKG K702 was all soundstage and treble with the lower end missing.

 

The more I listen to the HD 800 the more I realise how things should have sounded. The soundstage is large but detailed in that instrument placement is precise. I am not finding the treble to be harsh and neither is the lower end missing. I am getting good bass where the track requires it. Nothing on this headphone is exaggerated. But of course all this comes at a price. I was lucky enough not to make too much of a loss on the gear I had to sell in order to afford the HD800. 

 

I am now wondering how much I would have to spend to get the same audio quality in a speaker setup. Currently I have the Audiolab M-Dac and using its headphone out to power the HD 800.

post #1318 of 24349
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Originally Posted by zigy626 View Post

Just bought the Sennheiser HD 800 and its the best decision I have made when it comes to headphones. My journey into headphones began with Koss Porta Pro, then came the B&W P5, Sennheiser Amperior, AKG K702,  Sennheiser HD 650, Hifiman HE-500, Denon AH-D7100. All of them either got returned or sold on ebay. I just could not find the sound I wanted. The most exciting of them all was the Sennheiser Amperior it was pure fun. When it comes to audiophile quality I would say the Sennhesiser HD 650 would be at the top of the list. Hifiman HE-500 suffered from channel imbalance and had a small soundstage, Denon was too much bass leaking into the mid's, B&W P5 was just like the Koss porta pro with a slightly more detail in the upper frequency, AKG K702 was all soundstage and treble with the lower end missing.

 

The more I listen to the HD 800 the more I realise how things should have sounded. The soundstage is large but detailed in that instrument placement is precise. I am not finding the treble to be harsh and neither is the lower end missing. I am getting good bass where the track requires it. Nothing on this headphone is exaggerated. But of course all this comes at a price. I was lucky enough not to make too much of a loss on the gear I had to sell in order to afford the HD800. 

 

I am now wondering how much I would have to spend to get the same audio quality in a speaker setup. Currently I have the Audiolab M-Dac and using its headphone out to power the HD 800.

 

 

The answer to that question would be a TON of moneuy.  Hey, for $1,000 you can get speakers that image like no headphone can, put the soundstage out in front of you like no headphone can.

 

But, to get the seamlessness, extension on both ends, low distortion, detail, the pure sonic qualities you just won't find it.  In this regard headphones are a fantastic deal!

post #1319 of 24349
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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

 

I've tried several different audiophile cables... No difference, maybe slightly changed frequency response but that's all.

 

(Changed FR =/= better quality, IMHO)

 

Sorry, I was talking about pulling out the inner diaphragm covers and having a listen without them. I think some detail jumps out as a result.

I'm having a hard time making up my mind about it.

 

I pull them out and I get the impression that the difference is huge. Then I put them back in and I have the impression that its not... until I pull them out again.

post #1320 of 24349

I just bought a used moon audio dragon v3 from a fellow head-fier for ****s and giggles. 

Although the brightness that was too much to bear has worn off since I bought them in november.

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