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post #1291 of 25138
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

The problem isn't the cable, it's what takes up all that space and weight that isn't cable...

The cable is solid, flexible, shield protected.

I  would have preferred though a shorter cable, and something that resist better to tangling.

I  skip he " perceptible  difference" point, it's just mind numbing.

post #1292 of 25138
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Originally Posted by RustA View Post

Does not make sense to me with 1500USD headphones... With all the competition on the market.
Seems like he has his opinion. Lets not confuse him with facts. :-p
post #1293 of 25138
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

The cable is solid, flexible, shield protected.

 

HD600/650 cable is flexible, HD800 not so much.  Also Cardas is shielded too.

post #1294 of 25138

I dont know about you guys but I do use "audiophile electricity".  Living in the sticks like I do a UPS with line conditioning and AVR is a MUST.   I would not trust pluggin my equipment into the wall without "purifying" it first. I also found an issue with the charger on my laptop that causes noise in one of my amps.

post #1295 of 25138
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post

I dont know about you guys but I do use "audiophile electricity".  Living in the sticks like I do a UPS with line conditioning and AVR is a MUST.   I would not trust pluggin my equipment into the wall without "purifying" it first. I also found an issue with the charger on my laptop that causes noise in one of my amps.

+1 from the same great white north woods....UPS' and voltage regulators on everything.

post #1296 of 25138

Anyone with a decent system and a decent set of trained ears should be able to hear cable differences with time.

 

The HD800 stock cable isn't bad. There are just better ones out there.

post #1297 of 25138
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Originally Posted by toschek View Post

This leads me to another question, can you use a 1/4" TRS Female to 4 Pin XLR male adapter with balanced headphone jacks?   I am a cheap bast**d and those cost like $20.

 

If it's just a 4-pin XLR jack on an amp that's not truly balanced, then no, that won't cause any problems.  If you use an adapter like that on a true differential (balanced) amp, then you'll blow your amp.  

 

Also, could we just cut any discussion about whether or not cables make any difference in sound quality?  I think we should have the sense not to get into the same discussion that got the last thread locked.  That being said, I don't have much respect for the quality of the HD800 cable.  36AWG cable is just barely suitable for tonearm wire that carries voltages up to 5mV.  When HD800's will be plugged into amps that can put out 17V RMS (not even peak-to-peak swings), it's a little inadequate.  

post #1298 of 25138
Yeah, I really didn't mean to start a fight with that, I am really quite sure a cable swap can make a difference, it just irritates me to no end that Sennheiser couldn't see fit to including a nicer cable or no cable. For the hefty price tag it just burns my gut to have to go spend another $300 - $500 to get the most out of them. I find the whole argument that high end customers are going to source their own cable a bit illogical too, and if that's what Sennheiser intended, why not sell with no cable at all and charge $1200?
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I don't think anyone has mentioned anything about the sonic qualities that cables impart or not -- just whether Sennheiser cut costs or designed it around their cable, and whether it suits our needs.

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Originally Posted by jazzerdave View Post

 

If it's just a 4-pin XLR jack on an amp that's not truly balanced, then no, that won't cause any problems.  If you use an adapter like that on a true differential (balanced) amp, then you'll blow your amp.  

 

Also, could we just cut any discussion about whether or not cables make any difference in sound quality?  I think we should have the sense not to get into the same discussion that got the last thread locked.  That being said, I don't have much respect for the quality of the HD800 cable.  36AWG cable is just barely suitable for tonearm wire that carries voltages up to 5mV.  When HD800's will be plugged into amps that can put out 17V RMS (not even peak-to-peak swings), it's a little inadequate.  

post #1300 of 25138

When you buy a BMW, it comes with high performance all-season tires. For 99% of buyers, all-season tires are the best choice.

 

I bought the HD800 for the way it sounds first and foremost. I also like the comfort and build quality. The stock cable seems to be durable and of good quality - it suits me just fine.

post #1301 of 25138

To each is own.  I replaced it as soon as I got it.  Glad I did.

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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

When you buy a BMW, it comes with high performance all-season tires. For 99% of buyers, all-season tires are the best choice.

 

I bought the HD800 for the way it sounds first and foremost. I also like the comfort and build quality. The stock cable seems to be durable and of good quality - it suits me just fine.

True, but there still are better tires out there than stock all-seasons. The HD800 is good, but there are better. And as mentioned, some of us don't need a 10 footer and a balanced option would ne nice too. The differences I hear with cables are certainly subtle, but still audible. I don't want to make this into a cable thread, but should someone find a better solution for them in their setup, then good for them. 

 

That said, I would only recommend upgrading cables once the amp/dac/source (or tubes if its a tube-amp) have all been looked at and "finalized". It's usually the last thing I'd recommend to tweak.

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I personally can't stand dealing with a 10 foot cable since I sit right next to my amp. That and I needed balanced was why I got an aftermarket cable.
post #1304 of 25138

Which one did you go with Maxvla?

post #1305 of 25138
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

True, but there still are better tires out there than stock all-seasons. The HD800 is good, but there are better. And as mentioned, some of us don't need a 10 footer and a balanced option would ne nice too. The differences I hear with cables are certainly subtle, but still audible. I don't want to make this into a cable thread, but should someone find a better solution for them in their setup, then good for them. 

 

That said, I would only recommend upgrading cables once the amp/dac/source (or tubes if its a tube-amp) have all been looked at and "finalized". It's usually the last thing I'd recommend to tweak.

I like the balance cable with the hd800 and prefer the all copper cable for their non bright presentation. That being said the hD800 stock cable is not a bad cable but the aftermarket takes the edge that I hear in silver and  silver plated cables off. Everyone is different an has different preferences but the HD800 on balanced amps need an aftermarket cable to sound best.

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