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Originally Posted by Moonhead View Post

Well calling Questyle the ultimate wheee maybe pushing it, as it the only one I have heard with HD800.
Sounded quite good though.

If I had do it over Again I guess I would have picked up 02 combo or Asus one or something in that genre, I have a feeling that maybe HD800
Don't need than much power. I had a bad experience with Schiit Mjolnir so I just don't trust any of there products, but that's just me, lots
Of people seem to love that brand.

can you expand on this?  What was wrong with it?

post #12842 of 13870
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I have a few of the boys over today. We are testing the 800's on the Valhalla 2 and HA-1. Everything fed from the NAD m51. The Val2 has only warmed up for about 30 minutes. Just plugged the 800's into for the first. And...very interesting. tongue.gif
Valhalla 2 is looking like my best option I guess wink.gif. Get some nice tubes and it might be endgame. Perhaps a Sabre DAC with it?
post #12843 of 13870
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

can you expand on this?  What was wrong with it?

My own 2 cents. The 800 and the Mojo just made for a very forward, sometimes harsh combination. I am also believer now of pairing the 800 with a tube amp like the BH Crack. FWIW.
post #12844 of 13870
Mjolnir feels very cheap built, especially the volume knot, It had scratches in the metal from new.
Sound signature where beyond neutral and overly bright in the treble, IMO.
That amp just looks, feels and sounds like a joke compering it to Questyle, IMO.
Edited by Moonhead - 8/9/14 at 9:54am
post #12845 of 13870
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post


My own 2 cents. The 800 and the Mojo just made for a very forward, sometimes harsh combination. I am also believer now of pairing the 800 with a tube amp like the BH Crack. FWIW.

Always comes up.  :D  What is it about BH do you feel helps the HD800?

 

I personally think the 800 is forward natured in general.  Some amps that loosen the amp probably make it more tolerable with other genres of music.  

post #12846 of 13870
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

Always comes up.  biggrin.gif   What is it about BH do you feel helps the HD800?

I personally think the 800 is forward natured in general.  Some amps that loosen the amp probably make it more tolerable with other genres of music.  

To my ears, the Crack gives a better extension to the bottom end. So the sound is more 3D. Naturally tubes matter so that's another variable to play with. The SS amps I have used that far sound colder and harsher.
post #12847 of 13870
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Matrix M-Stage HPA-2 w/USB $320

Schiit Modi + Vali $220

Schiit Bifrost USB + Valhalla 2 $800

The usual suggestions.

Pretty much sums it up.

I'd wait for a used bifrost uber USB and Valhalla 2 to pop up. You'll be happy for a long time with this combo.
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How tubey is the vali with HD800?
post #12849 of 13870
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post

How tubey is the vali with HD800?

Do you mean over smooth and euphonic? Not much at all. There's not the bass authority you get with much better amps, but it's also very very detailed and resolving, especially given the price.
post #12850 of 13870
Good enough for me (;
Now all i need to decide is if to get the ODAC or Modi, with the Vali.
Edited by pearljam50000 - 8/9/14 at 10:56am
post #12851 of 13870
@purrin

I don't see any Decware amps on your list.
Is it because they are not good enough with HD800, or is it because you haven't heard them?
I'm currently using Mjolnir, but thinking of getting a tube amp for HD800. Currently lookint at CSP3 or Sonett2.
Keeping Mjolnir for my HD650.
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

I have a few of the boys over today. We are testing the 800's on the Valhalla 2 and HA-1. Everything fed from the NAD m51. The Val2 has only warmed up for about 30 minutes. Just plugged the 800's into for the first. And...very interesting. :p

Cool :) Keep us informed. I'm defo getting interested in the Val2 

post #12853 of 13870
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post

Good enough for me (;
Now all i need to decide is if to get the ODAC or Modi, with the Vali.

Whichever you can get cheaper. If you go with the ODAC, I'd get something like the Wyrd much sooner. I get noticeably different results based on the quality of my USB output.

Alternatively, a friend and I both prefer the Geek Out 450 as DAC over the ODAC. I'd consider going that path. I use mine to a Krell Klone at work as a temporary DAC and it was a step up from the ODAC.
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Originally Posted by zerodeefex View Post


Whichever you can get cheaper. If you go with the ODAC, I'd get something like the Wyrd much sooner. I get noticeably different results based on the quality of my USB output.

Alternatively, a friend and I both prefer the Geek Out 450 as DAC over the ODAC. I'd consider going that path. I use mine to a Krell Klone at work as a temporary DAC and it was a step up from the ODAC.

What is the difference you are noticing?  Is it a laptop?

post #12855 of 13870
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

I have a few of the boys over today. We are testing the 800's on the Valhalla 2 and HA-1. Everything fed from the NAD m51. The Val2 has only warmed up for about 30 minutes. Just plugged the 800's into for the first. And...very interesting. tongue.gif

Matt - if possible, can you give us a quick comparison of the val2 vs your crack with speedball via the m51?

val2 is an interesting amp, but I assume it must use global feedback to get its output impedance down to the published specs. I tend to think of feedback as anathema to OTL SET amps, but maybe I'm just drinking the bottlehead kool-aid. What's your conclusion after a back to back?
Edited by skeptic - 8/9/14 at 12:09pm
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