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I couldn't live with earbuds. You have to draw the line somewhere. At least the MA900/Modi/Vali resembles accurate audio.
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

I couldn't live with earbuds. You have to draw the line somewhere. At least the MA900/Modi/Vali resembles accurate audio.

Yeah, well in that case it would probably be the AD900 with something. I can't believe well it does for the price. 

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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

 

Existential question. Depends upon what religion you subscribe to:

  1. Get an O2. Nwavguy and his minions figured it all out a long time ago. Hifi is just a big scam. Frequency response, 1kHz sine wave power output, and 1kHz harmonic distortion tells you everything you need to know. Opamps sound the best because they measure in those three areas and other stuff like power supply noise rejection the best.
  2. The more something costs, the better it sounds. It's best that you post pictures of yourself with some hot Chinese hooker babes listening to your expensive gear and massaging your [redacted] on HF.
  3. After a few hundred bucks, it's not worth it. Diminishing returns and poor value. C'mon get real, this is audio.
  4. Can't help ourselves going for something better, even if what we discern as better has exponentially increasing costs. Only the current contents of the wallet is the limit.

 

So it's hard to say. A lot depends upon the psyche of the person if you are going to miss out or not. Choose one of two (you can straddle between the lines) correctly, and I may relate my own experience with the Vali and going up the chain.

 

You're my god Purrin :D

 

 

 

Just kidding Guys :D ... Don't flame me ,I don't want to end my life  like Jeanne D'Arc. :beerchug:

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I visited a hi-fi shop yesterday to audition LCD-3, LCD-X and HD-800, fully expecting to come out with one of the Audeze's after having read so much good about them. Coincidentally I had just bought the HDVA 600 amp on a very good price from Ebay and wanted to see how all 3 phones compared when paired with that particular amp.

 

I was really disappointed with both the Audeze models, too dark and very average soundstage, little/no depth, quite heavy and uncomfortable (it was a hot day). The bass, whilst strong and deep, seemed to get in the way of everything else and there was a lot of resonance going on as far as I could tell.

 

Then I tried the HD-800 - wow! This amp really makes the HD-800 shine, even with the Sennheiser stock balanced cable. I had reservations before I went in to the shop about the bass in the HD-800, but I was very pleasantly surprised. Really really great bass, very deep, very fast, not quite as full bodied as the Audeze (where the bass seemed to muddy the rest of the frequency spectrum). Dynamics, transients, drum hits were all top notch. The mids and tops were also divine (a little grating in parts on a couple of tracks I do admit, cable upgrade may well help there?). Where the HD-800 excelled of course was soundstage, imaging, depth - simply phenomenal with this amp (and others I'm sure).

 

I left the shop very happy and totally broke, having ordered the HD-800's to pair with my HDVA 600. Also ordered a Cardas Clear balanced cable. I will be using my old Yulong D100 as DAC for some time yet as there's no money left........

 

I should also add that I auditioned at Hi-Fi Lounge in Bedfordshire, UK. This is a great place to go to play with headphone toys and Paul at Hi-Fi Lounge is both very knowledgeable and helpful.

 

Edited by yates7592 - 8/8/14 at 6:51am
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Fascinating! Especially given that I currently use HD800s and am gearing up to go audition the LCD-X soon :D

 

Whilst the HD800 is undoubtedly the king with regards to detail, accuracy and microdynamics I've lately been wondering if you can have too much of a good thing :rolleyes: Too often during listening sessions I find myself consciously thinking about how impressed I am by the detail I'm hearing (at the same time occasionally finding the mids recessed behind the top end presence), rather than just 'relaxing into the music'.

 

Consequently I wonder whether an alternate flagship headphone might suit me better. I hope that (with the background of my personal preferences and personal experience of the HD800) I find the Audeze sound signature 'good enough' for me to let go of the Senn's technical perfection!

 

BTW whilst I'm here I will say that I heartily recommend the Anaxilus 2.0 modification. It removed all trace of the top end sibilance that some folks encounter with this headphone whilst having only minimal downside, that being an occasional closing in of some mid frequencies in the soundstage - an early reflection from the shelf-liner element of the mod no doubt.

 

yan

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Originally Posted by drdiem View Post
 

 

Consequently I wonder whether an alternate flagship headphone might suit me better. I hope that (with the background of my personal preferences and personal experience of the HD800) I find the Audeze sound signature 'good enough' for me to let go of the Senn's technical perfection!

 

yan

 

Seems like your situation is similar to this guy - http://www.marco.org/2014/07/12/ridiculous-headphones-pile-of-schiit - you might get some value out of reading his opinion. He opted for the TH900 instead of the LCDs.

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Thanks for the pointer Aive!!

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Originally Posted by drdiem View Post

Fascinating! Especially given that I currently use HD800s and am gearing up to go audition the LCD-X soon biggrin.gif

Whilst the HD800 is undoubtedly the king with regards to detail, accuracy and microdynamics I've lately been wondering if you can have too much of a good thing rolleyes.gif  Too often during listening sessions I find myself consciously thinking about how impressed I am by the detail I'm hearing (at the same time occasionally finding the mids recessed behind the top end presence), rather than just 'relaxing into the music'.

Consequently I wonder whether an alternate flagship headphone might suit me better. I hope that (with the background of my personal preferences and personal experience of the HD800) I find the Audeze sound signature 'good enough' for me to let go of the Senn's technical perfection!

BTW whilst I'm here I will say that I heartily recommend the Anaxilus 2.0 modification. It removed all trace of the top end sibilance that some folks encounter with this headphone whilst having only minimal downside, that being an occasional closing in of some mid frequencies in the soundstage - an early reflection from the shelf-liner element of the mod no doubt.

yan

I grab the HD600s when I'm in that mood. Give them a try they are amazing considering the price.
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I have the HD-600's and I agree for their price they're amazing sounding headphones.
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Originally Posted by James-uk View Post


I grab the HD600s when I'm in that mood. Give them a try they are amazing considering the price.


I'm at work now listening to my 600's + SB Crack.  It really is a great combo and an outstanding value.

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Originally Posted by yates7592 View Post
 

I visited a hi-fi shop yesterday to audition LCD-3, LCD-X and HD-800, fully expecting to come out with one of the Audeze's after having read so much good about them. Coincidentally I had just bought the HDVA 600 amp on a very good price from Ebay and wanted to see how all 3 phones compared when paired with that particular amp.

 

I was really disappointed with both the Audeze models, too dark and very average soundstage, little/no depth, quite heavy and uncomfortable (it was a hot day). The bass, whilst strong and deep, seemed to get in the way of everything else and there was a lot of resonance going on as far as I could tell.

 

Then I tried the HD-800 - wow! This amp really makes the HD-800 shine, even with the Sennheiser stock balanced cable. I had reservations before I went in to the shop about the bass in the HD-800, but I was very pleasantly surprised. Really really great bass, very deep, very fast, not quite as full bodied as the Audeze (where the bass seemed to muddy the rest of the frequency spectrum). Dynamics, transients, drum hits were all top notch. The mids and tops were also divine (a little grating in parts on a couple of tracks I do admit, cable upgrade may well help there?). Where the HD-800 excelled of course was soundstage, imaging, depth - simply phenomenal with this amp (and others I'm sure).

 

I left the shop very happy and totally broke, having ordered the HD-800's to pair with my HDVA 600. Also ordered a Cardas Clear balanced cable. I will be using my old Yulong D100 as DAC for some time yet as there's no money left........

 

I should also add that I auditioned at Hi-Fi Lounge in Bedfordshire, UK. This is a great place to go to play with headphone toys and Paul at Hi-Fi Lounge is both very knowledgeable and helpful.

 

 

WOW, I never heard LCD3/X but you saved me some money here. Not a fan of dark sounding or smaller soundstage, is not something that I am looking for, so I kind of have an idea about LCD3/x. thanks !

post #12792 of 13988
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Originally Posted by James-uk View Post


I grab the HD600s when I'm in that mood. Give them a try they are amazing considering the price.

 

Yes that's a thought. I was upgrading from an HD650 when I got the HD800, and perhaps the HD600 fills in the HD650's "missing" top end which is what I was looking to remedy with the HD800. I'd be most amused (and my wallet would thank me) if my personal satisfaction could be achieved with the HD600!

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Originally Posted by yates7592 View Post

I left the shop very happy and totally broke, having ordered the HD-800's to pair with my HDVA 600. Also ordered a Cardas Clear balanced cable. I will be using my old Yulong D100 as DAC for some time yet as there's no money left........

 

I should also add that I auditioned at Hi-Fi Lounge in Bedfordshire, UK. This is a great place to go to play with headphone toys and Paul at Hi-Fi Lounge is both very knowledgeable and helpful.

 

Gratz. Lucky you guys still have shops where you can audition gear before making a purchase. Amazon has destroyed all brick-and-mortar stores in the US.

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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

 

Gratz. Lucky you guys still have shops where you can audition gear before making a purchase. Amazon has destroyed all brick-and-mortar stores in the US.

 

Wow - I better hurry down to my local AV store and tell them to shut down immediately. :eek:

 

Of course Amazon has had a hand in the loss of many Brick and Mortar stores, but IMO, the ID companies and the mega stores (Walmart, Target, Best Buy) and their web sites have been far more destructive to "Hi-Fi" shops than Amazon.

 

Amazon has eliminated media content B/M though (books, music...)

post #12795 of 13988

Purrin? No love for HD800/WA2 combo?

 

I'm loving what the TS5998 tubes do for the WA2.

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