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I wonder why my neck was weak for audezes, :) looks like I have a long very long way to go .

Christmas at most.:D

 

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omg that pic is just horrible... What a ghastly looking man! :biggrin: 

 

 

Anyhow, there's been some really great reading these last 100 or so posts! I wonder if any of the more prolific head-fiers believe that impedance matching matters with the HD800. 120ohm clearly fills them out and can be pleasing to some. Some find it hard to find synergy with next to zero ohm output amps unless they use mods on the hp itself... Just wondering if ss amps that have an impedance output a little higher are better suited. I think the M-stage does and this seems to please quite a few of us. My experience is that they work better with higher impedance. (obviously this not the only factor involved with good amps but I think it is an important one.)

 

That's Brock Lesnar. He trains with HE-6's primarily as a portable. He carries speakers amps, DACs, and power supplies with him everywhere.

 

Regarding impedance output, I'm not sure that it's best to group amps and select them based on just their impedance outputs - goes for both headphone and speaker amps IME. The first thing that comes to mind is how dead sounding and bright the O2 sounded with it's less than 1 ohm impedance with pretty much every headphone I've tried it with. Take my DM Source output or other headphone jacks of headphone outputs on some studio gear that also have a very low impedance output and the difference is quite opposite. Neutral but without any of the flaws - except for hard to drive HE6 and planars.

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THANK YOU!   I was about to ask you SennHeads how to get these new LCD3s off my head and get back to my trusty 800.   OTOH, it's only been a week.  Maybe I'll keep 'em on another 2 months.

Pull the headband apart on the LCD-3 starting from the middle and work outwards from there. Keep doing it for a week or until it is permanent. After that, throw a Beyer foam headband add-on and it will make a world of difference.

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Also to support Lugbug's 120 ohm claims, there's also evidence of it being implemented. http://www.antelopeaudio.com/en/products/Zodiac-Gold-DAC

 

Click the features tab to read more -> you can dial in the impedance output anywhere up to 120 ohm. So I definitely do understand what you are saying. Although have found great results with all type of impedance outputs. Best to probably listen via own audition.

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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post

I might have to buy a vali myself. 

Figured you tried one by now. Excellent HD800 amp in the <$1000 territory. A no brainer at it's price.

-Daniel
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What are the benefits of an expensive amp with HD800?

Let's say i get the Vali, and i am never getting a 1000$ amp, what am i going to miss out?

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What are the benefits of an expensive amp with HD800?
Let's say i get the Vali, and i am never getting a 1000$ amp, what am i going to miss out?

Not sure about the Vali but nothing is missing using O2 and that's cheap as chips. If anything the O2 is a bit more revealing than my HDVD800 balanced . Price has nothing to do with the quality of sound from an amplifier unless you know which one is more expensive. In which case the more expensive one sounds better. That's just the way it is wink.gif
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post
 

What are the benefits of an expensive amp with HD800?

Let's say i get the Vali, and i am never getting a 1000$ amp, what am i going to miss out?

 

IMO you have to listen to one to know by yourself. First hand experience is still the best insight.


Edited by 62ohm - 8/7/14 at 2:46pm
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A wallet so light it practically floats?
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Not sure about the Vali but nothing is missing using O2 and that's cheap as chips. If anything the O2 is a bit more revealing than my HDVD800 balanced . Price has nothing to do with the quality of sound from an amplifier unless you know which one is more expensive. In which case the more expensive one sounds better. That's just the way it is wink.gif

Have you heard them both?
Are you saying that i can get a 130$ amp that sounds better than a 2000$ amp? if that's true, why would anyone on the planet buy the HDVD800?  

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Because they don't agree?
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post
 

What are the benefits of an expensive amp with HD800?

Let's say i get the Vali, and i am never getting a 1000$ amp, what am i going to miss out?

 

Existential question. Depends upon what religion you subscribe to:

  1. Get an O2. Nwavguy and his minions figured it all out a long time ago. Hifi is just a big scam. Frequency response, 1kHz sine wave power output, and 1kHz harmonic distortion tells you everything you need to know. Opamps sound the best because they measure in those three areas and other stuff like power supply noise rejection the best.
  2. The more something costs, the better it sounds. It's best that you post pictures of yourself with some hot Chinese hooker babes listening to your expensive gear and massaging your [redacted] on HF.
  3. After a few hundred bucks, it's not worth it. Diminishing returns and poor value. C'mon get real, this is audio.
  4. Can't help ourselves going for something better, even if what we discern as better has exponentially increasing costs. Only the current contents of the wallet is the limit.

 

So it's hard to say. A lot depends upon the psyche of the person if you are going to miss out or not. Choose one of two (you can straddle between the lines) correctly, and I may relate my own experience with the Vali and going up the chain.


Edited by purrin - 8/7/14 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post

Have you heard them both?

Are you saying that i can get a 130$ amp that sounds better than a 2000$ amp? if that's true, why would anyone on the planet buy the HDVD800?  

Because it looks nice and has 4 headphone sockets 2 of which are fancy balanced ones , plus it has multi inputs useful for connecting other equipment . It also had more power not that it's needed for the HD800 but still it looks good on paper. We are just humans and easily manipulated . Why do you think billions of pounds are spent on marketing etc. I own both these amps. I'm no better than the next man that likes shiny gadgets. I'm just saying it how it is that all. Sometimes you need the cheap amp such as the O2 just use as a reference to keep your head out the clouds. I know I appreciate it for that. I regularly plug my HD600s into the O2 and realise that I didn't need to spend all that money for great sound but where is the fun in that?
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post

What are the benefits of an expensive amp with HD800?
Let's say i get the Vali, and i am never getting a 1000$ amp, what am i going to miss out?
Not much really in that price bracket ime. You'd want to go to the $1500+ amps that pair well with the HD800s to make it worth your while. For instance I prefer the Vali w/ the Senns in particular over the MJ, Concerto, Auditor, Corda Rock, and various midrange AGD amps as well. That being said-if you can ever snag a used Nuforce Dac100, it's built in amp pairs exceptionally well with the Senns. A great budget all in one-but discontinued. They pop up in the FS forums from time to time for around $650-700.

-Daniel
Edited by BournePerfect - 8/7/14 at 3:18pm
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One is a timex one is a rolex. They both tell time. Whatever floats your boat.
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You people gave me alot to think about...

Anyways, i'm kind of happy because i'm starting to think maybe it is possible to reach audio nirvana on a tight budget of 300$-500$ for DAC/amp, which is all i can afford at the moment :o2smile:

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