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I'm hearing balanced pays big dividends with the 800...?

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No this is not true with any headphone. It is true with some amps. Buying nice wires. Is a pride of ownership thing. As it does make shuttle changes it does make a big difference in looks and the feeling of ownership.
Al
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I'm hearing balanced pays big dividends with the 800...?

 

Don't really know about that...  Some of the EC amps are SE.  

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You go man !!!!!
Al
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Duke Ellington: Concert in the Virgin Island 24/192...:eek: (wow)

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Congrats Matt and welcome buddy :beerchug: 


+1,:dt880smile:

+2 Matt you de Man :beerchug: 

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Have you heard the Zana Duex Al? apparently the WA22 sounds closer to that than it does the WA2

If you don't mind a third party opinion - I've heard these three in rapid succession, and while the wa22 is definitely more dynamic and resolving than the woo otl's, it still isn't as fast and detailed sounding as a Zana. It is about what you would expect from a premium transformer coupled woo amp. I'd hesitate to say that it is closer to a zana than the w2 in signature, but it is definitely somewhere in the middle. Note that as a balanced (push pull) amp, the wa22 has higher power but also double the output impedance of a single ended design, so bass is actually going to be slower with more bloom when you run it that way. Noise and distortion (excluding common mode) will also be higher.

I personally prefer the mainline over all three of these as an ideal match for hd800s (to my ears), but they are certainly all fine amps - so identifying and satisfying your preferences becomes the trick.
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If you don't mind a third party opinion - I've heard these three in rapid succession, and while the wa22 is definitely more dynamic and resolving than the woo otl's, it still isn't as fast and detailed sounding as a Zana. It is about what you would expect from a premium transformer coupled woo amp. I'd hesitate to say that it is closer to a zana than the w2 in signature, but it is definitely somewhere in the middle. Note that as a balanced (push pull) amp, the wa22 has higher power but also double the output impedance of a single ended design, so bass is actually going to be slower with more bloom when you run it that way. Noise and distortion (excluding common mode) will also be higher.

I personally prefer the mainline over all three of these as an ideal match for hd800s (to my ears), but they are certainly all fine amps - so identifying and satisfying your preferences becomes the trick. 

I see you built your mainline yourself - do you have pictures of the build. Maybe send a link or something. I would be interested to see that build in progress because I plan on building maybe the bottlehead myself this year. 

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I see you built your mainline yourself - do you have pictures of the build. Maybe send a link or something. I would be interested to see that build in progress because I plan on building maybe the bottlehead myself this year. 

 

Absolutely!  I'll shoot you a PM with links.  

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The HD800 Synergy is very good with the Vali amp especially for the price of entry on the Schitt Vali amp.
Buy IMHO not a chance in hell you could convince me that it sounds better than the HDVD800, and I've own both especially if you play the HDVD800 balanced, it's not even close.

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What do you think about the BHA-1 compared to HDVD800 / HDVA600?

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I'm hearing balanced pays big dividends with the 800...?

For WA22, with balanced input, hooking the HD800 balanced vs SE to the amp = no difference.  Not sure about other amps. I can't comment.  Some people will say/believe balanced = better but i am not a member of that group.


Edited by koiloco - 6/25/14 at 8:53pm
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For WA22, with balanced input, hooking the HD800 balanced vs SE to the amp = no difference.  Not sure about other amps. I can't comment.  Some people will say/believe balanced = better but i am not a member of that group.

Yes, the key for WA22 is to use the balanced inputs from a balanced DAC. It don't matter much (if at all) whether you use a 4pin xlr, a pair of 3pin xlr, or 6.35 terminated cables with your HD800.

However, with HDVD800 there is material difference of the sound form it's SE vs balanced outputs. I'm sure different amps would be different in whether using balanced output to HD800 is advantageous.
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... Now I tend to prefer a more detailed but neutral sound. I took me a long time to realize that the bass was getting in the way of the music. I think every cheap system that I grew up with had over accentuated bass and I would always pick the more bassy gear over everything else -thinking it was better...

Phew... finally caught up on this thread. Now I can start commenting on real time instead of holding off because I was always about 10 pages back and out of topic.

 

I had similar tendencies when I started into this hobby, although I also knew early on that wanted detail too. But still, I thought that bass ruled over everything else. So when I thought about my endgame headphone, I thought there was nothing else to consider than the TH-900. When I went to test them side by side, I reminded myself to think about long term and long listening sessions. I thought that TH-900 was a little too bass heavy and during long listening sessions it would become fatiguing. So I went with the HD800 and do not regret this decision one bit.

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Is anybody here using the HD800 with one of Glenn's amps ?

 

I would be very interested to know your impressions as this is one amp that has my interest.

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