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post #11446 of 13856

Al is a contractor, when he tells a customer a Job will get done in 16 months , he actually means year & half :D

post #11447 of 13856
Al. Is having a very confusing day so far.
I think I need to wake the F Up before posting anymore.
Hahahaha
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Lmao. No actually I am the guy done really fast so I get paid faster.
But I do get your point funny
Al
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

No not yours the other guy that did not like the woo WA22. Your views I always understand.
Al

For the wa22, IMO even more so than the tubes, I think a transparent balanced DAC also makes hd800 much better sounding than using the rca SE line in. For the tubes, I find even just replacing the 6080 power tubes will give you great improvement. Listening to stock tube paired with a poor SE DAC could be unimpressive...
Edited by kkcc - 6/25/14 at 5:15am
post #11450 of 13856
I agree the wa 22 must be used in balance mode
To sound the best. Anyone who uses it in SE has no idea how much they are loosing
Al
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I agree the wa 22 must be used in balance mode
To sound the best. Anyone who uses it in SE has no idea how much they are loosing
Al

Maybe Dubsteps girls impressions were in single ended. I remember she didn't really like it too much even though she had the best tubes possible. If I remember correctly she said that is was a little lean in the lower registers which is one of the reasons that I was put off getting it. 

post #11452 of 13856
Dubstep also used the HE6 with it. So I am not so sure about any of it.
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

since when is 16 months a year and a half. sure Al meant 18 ;)

Haha, caught it good !, for us 1 month waiting feels like 1 year.

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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Dubstep also used the HE6 with it. So I am not so sure about any of it.

I recall Dubstep preferred wa2 (single ended) over wa22 as wa2 has more bass and is a better value... with Woo personally I much preferred wa22 balanced, and also over wa5le (don't remember what tube it had when I demo) with hd800.
post #11455 of 13856
A big difrence in opinions like this is why reviews and even our own
Subjective views just make no sense some times.
I can say things that others say the opposite
My first thought is they must be wrong. But it's not that simple sometimes.
A better approach is find people who share your thoughts and bounce off if them
This works much better for me.
Al
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

A big difrence in opinions like this is why reviews and even our own
Subjective views just make no sense some times.
I can say things that others say the opposite
My first thought is they must be wrong. But it's not that simple sometimes.
A better approach is find people who share your thoughts and bounce off if them
This works much better for me.
Al

I agree. It does take time to find people who like the same sound signature and also listen to the same kind of music. When I first joined headfi I always gravitated towards SQ with beefy bass and had taking advice from anyone and everyone regardless of what they listened to. Now I tend to prefer a more detailed but neutral sound. I took me a long time to realize that the bass was getting in the way of the music. I think every cheap system that I grew up with had over accentuated bass and I would always pick the more bassy gear over everything else -thinking it was better. 

 

When DG said it was lean (WA22) - I was putt off by that, but because she has a completely different taste to me and the fact that I don't care for bass heavy gear anymore is making me think that I have been a bit harsh on the WA22. 

 

Have you heard the Zana Duex Al? apparently the WA22 sounds closer to that than it does the WA2

 

 

 

I would like to hear some WA22 vs DNA stratus impressions - that would be interesting. 

post #11457 of 13856
I haven't heard the WA22 but I can attest that upgrading the stock WA2 with the 5998 power tubes raises the SQ to another level.

Oh yes.
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Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post

I haven't heard the WA22 but I can attest that upgrading the stock WA2 with the 5998 power tubes raises the SQ to another level.

Oh yes.


Huge difference on WA22 with upgraded tubes!  Night and day, I would say.

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Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post

I haven't heard the WA22 but I can attest that upgrading the stock WA2 with the 5998 power tubes raises the SQ to another level.

Oh yes.


+1

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Originally Posted by punit View Post

Amazing

WA22 (with Maxed out tubes , these are even better than the upgrades Woo offers)
AGD M9

Very Good
Bottlehead Crack with Speedball (with GEC 6AS7G / WE421A)

Good
Woo WA6
Darkvoice 336SE

Bad / Average
Schiit Lyr
Meier Classic

Above is based on my personal preference. YMMV. Waiting for my Glenn Custom OTL, which I am told is even better than WA22 with the HD 800.

For Silver Ears response. I've tested the HD 800's with the Burson Solist SL and that works absolutely beautiful. You get a nice balanced sound with tight Bass while every little bit of the 800's dynamics are maxed out. The soloist is in short, a wonderful pairing. However, I recommend replacing the stock AC power cord and getting a quality power line conditioner that supports LiFT and EVS technologies. The FURMAN SPT 8D is wonderful and ensures your gear will get clean power, and PANGEA makes great AC power cords. Get one that has PCOCC copper (with LITZ) and a 12 AWG because it can support a ton of insulation and conductors. Very very clean. It will improve your Burson's sound quality....tighter bass, focused dynamics and of course that nice pitch black background. smily_headphones1.gif

Another option is using the OPAMP that is in your AVR receiver. I have a Harman Kardon and that receiver/amp is quite good with the HD's and you can really maximize the bass levels the HD 800's can support cleanly; however with that OPAMP you get a bit more white noise background and the sound is not as tight and balanced as with the Burson. It's good If you have the right DAC (I use ARCAM) but paired with dedicated SS is a more audiophile grade.
These are my findings and experience so far. Hope it helps.
Oh one last thing. If the HD 800's treble and and sibilance is a little too weighty I'd opt for a cable upgrade. Toxic Cables (Copper Venom OCC) seems to give the most improvement for this matter. Depending on your chain of sound you can get a 7-10% increase in sound quality and treble smoothing with that cable. Happy listening. smily_headphones1.gif
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