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post #10966 of 24293
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

How much are the ATCSCM150 ASL PRO?

 

I'm sure there are some $15,000 HD800 rigs out there - But not many.  If we use the same DAC for both rigs at say around 4K and the amps cost 4K each (Headphone amp for the headphones and Speaker amp for the speakers), a pair of  HD800s cost $1,500 vs.a set of speakers at $1,500 - This would put the speakers at $750 each.  Just breaking it down.

 

I've seen them for as low as $16-17,000 used.

 

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SCM150ASL/

 

These are mid fields. I prefer using mid fields or border line nearfields/midfields. They have the right SPL for big room and the fatigue is gone from being really close to the speakers all the time.

 

EDIT: I have a pair of HR824 mk1 which can be had for quite cheap nowadays. They go for $700 new a piece so fit your criteria of $1500. For movies, TV shows and some music stuff, I'd still take the HR824 over HD800. The Source tightens them up and I have decent room size and acoustic treatment to allow them to breathe and still be tight.


Edited by Zoom25 - 5/29/14 at 12:42pm
post #10967 of 24293
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

 

I've seen them for as low as $16-17,000 used.

 

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SCM150ASL/

 

These are mid fields. I prefer using mid fields or border line nearfields/midfields. They have the right SPL for big room and the fatigue is gone from being really close to the speakers all the time.

 

EDIT: I have a pair of HR824 mk1 which can be had for quite cheap nowadays. They go for $700 new a piece so fit your criteria of $1500. For movies, TV shows and some music stuff, I'd still take the HR824 over HD800. The Source tightens them up and I have decent room size and acoustic treatment to allow them to breathe and still be tight.

 

 

OK - that's what I was asking...

post #10968 of 24293

How often would you guys recommend changing pads on HD800? I use mine for 2 hours daily and have had them now for 7 months. 

That's an average of 400 hours. You think that warrants a change? Maybe after 1000?

post #10969 of 24293
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

How often would you guys recommend changing pads on HD800? I use mine for 2 hours daily and have had them now for 7 months. 

That's an average of 400 hours. You think that warrants a change? Maybe after 1000?

 

I use mine for roughly 8~10 hours a day and have had them for 6 months, which sums up to about 1.620 hours usage and it still look like new.

post #10970 of 24293

I've detached mine and washed them gently with soap a couple of times.

 

They're actually really easy to detach when you know the trick. Grab the bottom edge of the pad with the thumb and index finger and push/pull up and towards the center of the headphone, where your head would be. The pad should come loose without too much force.

post #10971 of 24293

I stumbled upon these videos that guides me through when I was cleaning mine

 

 

post #10972 of 24293
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

 

I've seen them for as low as $16-17,000 used.

 

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SCM150ASL/

 

These are mid fields. I prefer using mid fields or border line nearfields/midfields. They have the right SPL for big room and the fatigue is gone from being really close to the speakers all the time.

 

EDIT: I have a pair of HR824 mk1 which can be had for quite cheap nowadays. They go for $700 new a piece so fit your criteria of $1500. For movies, TV shows and some music stuff, I'd still take the HR824 over HD800. The Source tightens them up and I have decent room size and acoustic treatment to allow them to breathe and still be tight.

I have heard these Mackie's and a bunch of others + my own Genelecs , in a mediocre room  (your regular room) i would pick a good headphone rig instead... 98% of the time.  

post #10973 of 24293

^ Yay !!!!!!

post #10974 of 24293
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Originally Posted by Priidik View Post
 

I have heard these Mackie's and a bunch of others + my own Genelecs , in a mediocre room  (your regular room) i would pick a good headphone rig instead... 98% of the time.  

True, room makes a big difference. In my living room on the main floor, it sounds horrible. The walls and wooden floor are garbage for that. Gave up on it.

 

That's why I relocated that rig to my basement. Currently in a 20 meter x 8 meter big room. Decent placement, breathing space from the wall and took care of corners and first reflections with natural but effective furniture stuff. For example, book cases with books completely filled. Curtains and dead cabinets. 50 pound stands and recoil stabilizers. The walls, floors, ceiling and most furniture in that room is very, very dead sounding. Even for movies, there's minimal light reflection.

 

Of course, I'd love to have a designated room built for this, but for the moment, it's serving me quite well. Much better than typical house rooms. 

post #10975 of 24293

60+ feet by 24+ feet?? Wow! :blink:

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

That's why I relocated that rig to my basement. Currently in a 20 meter x 8 meter big room.

post #10976 of 24293
Personally I don't understand how people can compare headphones with speakers, they are totally different beasts. It's like comparing cars to motorbikes, both can take you round a track but the experience is very different. If you are comparing them on cost:sonority then it is again very similar to the bike vs car analogy; cars are on average more expensive but you can still have a decent race car which is cheaper than a high end bike.
My 2¢.
post #10977 of 24293
Hahahaha yes you are correct as I agree. But as one is not better the two together give you a far more better understanding of the music we listsn to as well as the devices we use in the chain .
Al
post #10978 of 24293
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post
60+ feet by 24+ feet?? Wow! :blink:

Roughly…+/-

 

Of course, my listening position is only 8 feet away from the speakers. I'd love to be closer to the speakers and make the triangle smaller, but then the 60" tv just seems a bit overwhelming if I get any closer. The good thing is that a 20 Hz can go the full length of the room before reflecting off the back wall. Although I have bunch of stuff along the way that there won't be a benefit of formally treating the back wall.

 

Also, despite the size, I can clap really hard, yet no echoes and very minimum reverbs. It's a dead room.


Edited by Zoom25 - 5/30/14 at 5:58pm
post #10979 of 24293
A few pages ago, people treated this as an IEM thread, now people started imagining this as a speakers thread...confused_face.gif
post #10980 of 24293
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Originally Posted by froger View Post

A few pages ago, people treated this as an IEM thread, now people started imagining this as a speakers thread...confused_face.gif


The HD800 is a multifacetted animal; comparisons to IEMs and speakers are inevitable.

 

As is general complaints from those who fail to grasp these implications.

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