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post #10861 of 18507
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Here is a question for those who think any headphone let's hear it all.
Anyone here have both headphones and speakers.
Is there music you know well with headphones
And then play it on speakers for the first time and notice the ambience of the studio in a completely different way ?
A song to play is track 5 or 6 on social club.
With headphones I hear the instings close and far
But with speakers it way different
The venue where it was recorded is a bigger part if the musical reproduction
Al

True. The venue and ambience comes out much better on speakers. If I have the option to both speakers and headphones, I never touch headphones. Only for late night when going to bed. 

 

You can also get a sense of how artists changed their production techniques from album to album.

post #10862 of 18507
Yes this too is true. But yet we all hear small nuances we do not hear on speakers.
The over all point is there is both to hear the complete
Virtue of any good recording.
Al
post #10863 of 18507
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Here is a question for those who think any headphone let's hear it all.
Anyone here have both headphones and speakers.
Is there music you know well with headphones
And then play it on speakers for the first time and notice the ambience of the studio in a completely different way ?
A song to play is track 5 or 6 on social club.
With headphones I hear the instings close and far
But with speakers it way different
The venue where it was recorded is a bigger part if the musical reproduction
Al

True When I listen to speakers sometimes I hear things that I don't notice as much on headphones.

That's not to say that it isn't there on the headphone. If you check both you will hear those things on both systems.

I personally hear more on headphones than I do on speakers.

Only sometimes do speakers let me hear something that I didn't notice on the headphone. 

 

But it depends heavily on the speaker system. I have only heard 2 speakers systems for longer periods of time

 

- the Keff R500 through a Rotel amp with V800 DAC - the other system was 

 - Monitor Audio GS20 with a Vincent hybrid power amp (cant remember the pre-amp) and the pioneer PD 75

 

I still prefer my WA2/HD800 over those rigs (not for every album but most) although the Monitor Audio rig came close.

I think you have to scale much higher to beat that headphone rig or lets say to beat a rig like - GSXMK2/Audio GDM7/HD800

you would have to go higher. Maybe 10,000 euro (14,000 dollars) and up. 

 

I have heard people say that cheaper speaker rigs than the GSX one will sound much better but in my experience that is not true. 

What do you guys think? What speaker rigs do you think start to edge out in front of a TOTL HD800 rig? 

post #10864 of 18507

Now I haven't heard HD800 on GS-X but active monitors from ATC, PMC and the 3 way's from Genelec are quite fun to listen to (1037, 8260). SM9 is fun as well. I only have experience with the low end monitors and the very high end ones. Nothing in the middle though.

 

If you're into hifi and have cash, maybe try out the mini Blade coming out.

post #10865 of 18507
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

Now I haven't heard HD800 on GS-X but active monitors from ATC, PMC and the 3 way's from Genelec are quite fun to listen to (1037, 8260). SM9 is fun as well. I only have experience with the low end monitors and the very high end ones. Nothing in the middle though.

 

If you're into hifi and have cash, maybe try out the mini Blade coming out.

Keff mini blade?

post #10866 of 18507
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 

Keff mini blade?

Yup

post #10867 of 18507
post #10868 of 18507
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

Yup

wow I had no idea they were released

post #10869 of 18507
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Originally Posted by magiccabbage View Post
 
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post
 

Now I haven't heard HD800 on GS-X but active monitors from ATC, PMC and the 3 way's from Genelec are quite fun to listen to (1037, 8260). SM9 is fun as well. I only have experience with the low end monitors and the very high end ones. Nothing in the middle though.

 

If you're into hifi and have cash, maybe try out the mini Blade coming out.

Keff mini blade?

Relatively....Compared to the Original Blades....

 

http://www.kef.com/html/us/showroom/flagship_hi-fi_series/blade/fact_sheet/blade_group/BLADE_2/index.html

post #10870 of 18507

lol on a side note while looking for the baby blade, I came across a Kef video and I came across a comment. It is one of the truest things I've observed while watching (old) people listen to stuff at dealers or showroom:

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I'm an Audiophile. My signature look? Arms crossed with a frown, of course.

 

It's so dead on accurate. It's usually this or some variation with eyes closed :D

 

…anyways back to HD800


Edited by Zoom25 - 5/25/14 at 4:18pm
post #10871 of 18507
Can you hear any difference between PCM and DSD on HD800?
post #10872 of 18507
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post

Can you hear any difference between PCM and DSD on HD800?


Absolutely!

 

My DSD version of Getz/Gilberto sounds way different from my PCM version of Steely Dan Gaucho. There's no comparison!

post #10873 of 18507
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Can you hear any difference between PCM and DSD on HD800?

I'd think this would depend very heavily on how you generate two different format versions of exactly the same track? That said, if any pair of headphones could reveal the difference between file conversions then it's the HD800. So far I've found mine to be insanely revealing :)

post #10874 of 18507
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post

Can you hear any difference between PCM and DSD on HD800?

i would think this would depend on the DAC and also on the mastering of the tracks. are we talking same source that is converted into both high-res PCM and DSD? that's also a tough thing to do because one or the other format will be at a disadvantage when converting to the other format...going from PCM to DSD and vice-versa is a losing proposition both ways. ideally, you'd like to listen to whatever format the original was mastered in...

post #10875 of 18507
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post
 


Absolutely!

 

My DSD version of Getz/Gilberto sounds way different from my PCM version of Steely Dan Gaucho. There's no comparison!

 

Obviously it's a placebo effect for sure. Everybody knows that nobody could hear the diffference between Stan Getz & Steely dan in any serious ABX test.

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