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The question of diminishing returns is a matter of time also. What I mean is if you just audition amps shortly, you will not really hear the entire range of differences from better equipment. It is a time consuming process but the differences can start becoming bigger as you carefully listen, learn strenghts and weaknesses of the gear. Still you can def get a good amp for hd800 for around 1K USD> 

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The question of diminishing returns is a matter of time also. What I mean is if you just audition amps shortly, you will not really hear the entire range of differences from better equipment. It is a time consuming process but the differences can start becoming bigger as you carefully listen, learn strenghts and weaknesses of the gear. Still you can def get a good amp for hd800 for around 1K USD> 

 

 

+1

 

very happy with how my HD 800/WA2 sounds, even when compared to more expensive amps. (though i do have tube upgrades, wish i had parts upgrade too :/)


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 7/6/13 at 1:24pm
post #3558 of 10075
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Possibly. But I'm not really willing to spend multiple thousands for an amp/dac combo for a marginal improvement at best. Many people do, and if they like their rig then more power to them.

 

People can tell me that my HD800 sounds like poop with my Lyr all they want, it's not going to make me want to rush out and buy an SPL Phonitor. I get immense enjoyment out of my rig just the way it is. dt880smile.png

 

No, just no. Synergy is of utmost importance with the HD800, and it scales ridiculously high. The m-Stage for instance has great synergy with the HD800, but OTOH,  pairing it with a ZDSE is anything but marginal, I assure you. wink.gif

 

-Daniel

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No, just no. Synergy is of utmost importance with the HD800, and it scales ridiculously high. The m-Stage for instance has great synergy with the HD800, but OTOH,  pairing it with a ZDSE is anything but marginal, I assure you. wink.gif

 

-Daniel

Bingo. Yes, the HD800s can sound very good out of the Lyr (owned it and liked it). But as long as one is aware that they're leaving a lot of cards on the table. They continue to scale and scale. They got a big bump up when I picked up my WA2 and then again with the WA22 and LF. And now, holy smoke, they are simply breath taking on my GS-X MKII. 

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@BournePerfect
No, just no. Synergy is of utmost importance with the HD800, and it scales ridiculously high.


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@Cante Ista
 It is a time consuming process but the differences can start becoming bigger as you carefully listen,

 
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@Stalker81598
 I'm not really willing to spend multiple thousands for an amp/dac combo for a marginal improvement at best.

 


versus a guy that own different amp, and didn't hear much difference, but the post in lost in this long thread.

 

Eh, enough of the hype pressure to buy whatever amp.

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versus a guy that own different amp, and didn't hear much difference, but the post in lost in this long thread.

 

Eh, enough of the hype pressure to buy whatever amp.

I see no pressure, just opinions being expressed.  You have the choice to go as far as you want to.  No one is twisting your arm as far as I see, on this thread anyway...biggrin.gif

 

Enjoy the music. beerchug.gif

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versus a guy that own different amp, and didn't hear much difference, but the post in lost in this long thread.

 

Eh, enough of the hype pressure to buy whatever amp.

I see no pressure, just opinions being expressed.  You have the choice to go as far as you want to.  No one is twisting your arm as far as I see, on this thread anyway...biggrin.gif

 

Enjoy the music. beerchug.gif

+1...It is all good....gs1000.gif

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+1...It is all good....gs1000.gif

+2 !

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verses

 

need to own a pair of HD800's to have an arm to twist........cool.gif

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It's all about the law of diminishing returns and expendable income and passion for music and/or toys.

 

For me I have to decide if I am happy with a $1000 amp or do I want to spend $2000 for that extra percent of clarity/detail...or maybe that $500 amp is good enough and I'll get new shocks and springs for my Porsche, or maybe I don't need an amp at all and I'll buy a new regulator and dry suit that I've been putting off. Or...   biggrin.gif

 

We all draw the line in a different place.

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I'm at that line for both my rigs in terms of amps and dacs. My Buffalo III and Mjolnir is good enough for me with the HD800. The GSX is definitely an improvement but diminishing gains come in hard at the cost of the GSX compared to the Mjolnir. As long as what you have lets you enjoy the music that's all you can ask for.

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verses

 

need to own a pair of HD800's to have an arm to twist........cool.gif

 

BuhbuhbuhitsallTHESAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

-Daniel

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Bingo. Yes, the HD800s can sound very good out of the Lyr (owned it and liked it). But as long as one is aware that they're leaving a lot of cards on the table. They continue to scale and scale. They got a big bump up when I picked up my WA2 and then again with the WA22 and LF. And now, holy smoke, they are simply breath taking on my GS-X MKII. 

 

I've seen a lot of people saying incredible stuff about this GS-X MKII, especially how it drives the HD800 so well despite being a solid-state amp (tube amps are generally preferred for the HD800). I own a ZDSE, which is undoubtedly the best amp I've heard with the HD800 along with Bakoon HPA-21, but I wonder if the GS-X MKII outperforms both of them by a huge margin. Of course I don't have the money to buy the GS-X MKII right now, but if it is indeed a significant improvement over my Zana Deux SE, then I may consider it in the future. Have you heard the ZDSE, and if so, do you think the GS-X is far superior to it in its ability to drive the HD800?

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It looks like I'm settled on getting an HD 800. Was going to go for the LCD-3 but it's much more expensive and would have to be ordered from the US. From what I've read, my V200 should be nice with it, and I also have a Taboo MKIII coming soon, which I believe Frank said was a "revelation" with the HD 800. I'm very curious about how I'll feel about them, as I tend to like warm headphones. But I'm also really drawn to the idea of more detail and soundstage.
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I've seen a lot of people saying incredible stuff about this GS-X MKII, especially how it drives the HD800 so well despite being a solid-state amp (tube amps are generally preferred for the HD800). I own a ZDSE, which is undoubtedly the best amp I've heard with the HD800 along with Bakoon HPA-21, but I wonder if the GS-X MKII outperforms both of them by a huge margin. Of course I don't have the money to buy the GS-X MKII right now, but if it is indeed a significant improvement over my Zana Deux SE, then I may consider it in the future. Have you heard the ZDSE, and if so, do you think the GS-X is far superior to it in its ability to drive the HD800?

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None of these amp are "far superior" anyway.  Subtle difference.  

 

"For me."  Tubes bring a certain distortion in the mid rage that sacrifices clarity and detail.  It seems that folks are trying to get tube amps to sound like SS amps.  With saying like "This tube amp sounds more like a SS amp"  why not just get a SS amp?

 

Where's the poll that says tube amps are generally preferred?


Edited by preproman - 7/7/13 at 7:51am
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