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post #1636 of 10041

You found them underwhelming on the O2?  I tried that mod twice on 2 different HD800s.  Both times my soundstage was restricted I find them to be a really good headphone in the stock form.  

post #1637 of 10041
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Originally Posted by kazsud View Post

Are there a carrying case that the 800s fit that will fit into a back pack?

 

I've searched and only found one on eBay that was pretty thin.

 

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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post


I think you just need to get a bigger back pack the fit the big @$$ box it come in biggrin.gif. But seriously, I have not seen anything like that. When traveling, I pack then into a carry on in that big box -- sucks!

 

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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

I'm not sure it fit on a back pack, but look for "Hippo HD800 Travel Case".

Otherwise I use the pelicase 1400 (that do not fit on a back back, but still more convenient than the default big box).

I use the hippo case large (got it from Jaben with a  stand and a hippo biscuit for about $100):

SKU5221 Hippocase (L) with FREE CrossRoads Metal Headphone Stand and new Hippo Biscuit MP3 Player!

It's a semi-hard case so it's not gorilla proof one but it works.

post #1638 of 10041

Yes, they have a thinner compressed timbre that is not natural in stock form. It is caused by a dip in the mids followed by a wild swing up to 6k. It's not unlistenably bad, but still a fundamental flaw in a headphone that aims for supreme neutrality. It is extremely apparent if you listen to the high strings of an orchestra with well-recorded classical music.

 

Again, the tonality problem is not as prominent in every genre or track, but I can hear the problem in most any track. As for the soundstage, I purposely increased the high treble response (which our ears are not sensitive to) in order to increase the perceived airiness of the sound.


Edited by juantendo8 - 4/5/13 at 3:05pm
post #1639 of 10041
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post


I use the hippo case large (got it from Jaben with a  stand and a hippo biscuit for about $100):
SKU5221 Hippocase (L) with FREE CrossRoads Metal Headphone Stand and new Hippo Biscuit MP3 Player!
It's a semi-hard case so it's not gorilla proof one but it works.







Looks like a winner!!
post #1640 of 10041
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Originally Posted by juantendo8 View Post

 

No more excessive brightness. No more thin and nasal tonality. All the technicalities and strengths of the stock HD800. The EQ shift was only about up and down 3dB. I'm sure EQ would really help the stock form also, but the mod makes the EQ simpler and less dramatic.

 

I am a newcomer to parametric EQ and realize that many do not want to have to learn the ropes, so I will post my exact EQ settings from Electri-Q (using Foobar2000):

 

Peak filter I - Freq: 4137.4     Gain: 5.8     BW: 1

Peak filter II - Freq: 5696.1     Gain: -6.1     BW: 1.1

Peak filter III - Freq: 20000     Gain: 3     BW: 3    

Gain filter - Freq: any     Gain: -3.3     BW: any

Tested your EQ settings, with same VST, but with stock hd800.

What I  notice:

- smaller soundstage

- less "laid back"

- reduced stereo separation, maybe decreasing the need of crossfeed

- a bit less sibilant

- sometimes it appears a bit more obviously harsh, although when I disable the eq, it just seem that "harshness"

is drowned in a lot of treble energy.

- some loss of treble texture , details

- perhaps a bit less thin, since it's more easy to separate some trebly part of music. But it's a bit gross.

I  still feel that some part of the "excitement" is gone, so that's mitigated.


Edited by extrabigmehdi - 4/5/13 at 4:46pm
post #1641 of 10041

I rather try to find the right synergy within the chain of components, than EQing my HD800 as I think it compromises the integrity of the intended sound signature.

post #1642 of 10041
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Originally Posted by silversurfer616 View Post

I rather try to find the right synergy within the chain of components, than EQing my HD800 as I think it compromises the integrity of the intended sound signature.


+1

 

I see you use cardas too, which cardas are you using anyway?

post #1643 of 10041

Had the regular Cardas headphone cable but have now the Norse adapter,so I can use a balanced ALO chain mail intended for my LCD2.

This through a balanced Audio GD DAC and the Phoenix and I have no complaints!
 

post #1644 of 10041
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Originally Posted by extrabigmehdi View Post

Tested your EQ settings, with same VST, but with stock hd800.

What I  notice:

- smaller soundstage

- less "laid back"

- reduced stereo separation, maybe decreasing the need of crossfeed

- a bit less sibilant

- sometimes it appears a bit more obviously harsh, although when I disable the eq, it just seem that "harshness"

is drowned in a lot of treble energy.

- some loss of treble texture , details

- perhaps a bit less thin, since it's more easy to separate some trebly part of music. But it's a bit gross.

I  still feel that some part of the "excitement" is gone, so that's mitigated.

 

Well, I really have no way to test this on a stock HD800 myself, as I don't feel like ripping out the foam inside mine. I can assure you that it is an improvement with the Anax 2.0 if you would ever be inclined to try it. Nothing fancy going on. Just flattening out the mids and treble some.


Edited by juantendo8 - 4/5/13 at 6:16pm
post #1645 of 10041
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Hifiman travel case should fit them.


Yep, fit with room to spare, just tested it out, you need either take out foam insert or modify it to the shape of HD800, I just use it w/o insert as this way it fits variety of phones.

It's also more compact than Hippo case.

http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=118#

Check ebay for cheaper prices.

post #1646 of 10041
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Yep, fit with room to spare, just tested it out, you need either take out foam insert or modify it to the shape of HD800, I just use it w/o insert as this way it fits variety of phones.

It's also more compact than Hippo case.

http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=118#

Check ebay for cheaper prices.

 

this case also fits perfectly on LCD 3

post #1647 of 10041
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Originally Posted by silversurfer616 View Post

I rather try to find the right synergy within the chain of components, than EQing my HD800 as I think it compromises the integrity of the intended sound signature.

Anything colored at all compromises the signature. For instance, I might not use EQ on HD800s with my Leben, but it's definitely not the usual HD800 signature.
post #1648 of 10041

Of course I don't know what the by Sennheiser intended sound signature sounds like but I just try to tweak the HD800 by using(as you say "coloured" or not coloured)individual components to make it pleasant for my ears.

I refuse EQing because it always degrades the sound(at least for me).
 

post #1649 of 10041

I  have nothing against eq, but I found that any change with eq in the treble area, are  quite noticeable while using the hd800; even with the smoothest eq curve and small amounts.

At the end , I  think the hd800 has its "flavor", and I  don't want to detract it too much.

post #1650 of 10041
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Originally Posted by silversurfer616 View Post

Of course I don't know what the by Sennheiser intended sound signature sounds like but I just try to tweak the HD800 by using(as you say "coloured" or not coloured)individual components to make it pleasant for my ears.

I refuse EQing because it always degrades the sound(at least for me).
 

 

+1 on that

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