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post #1741 of 1749

About earpads replacement I wanted to say that I must apologize for not having believed that the HM5 would work.
They do not only work, they are amazing.

I have improved them even more.

It is for the ATH-WS99BT but as far as I know the dimensions are exactly the same so it would work on the wired WS99 too:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/746519/huge-comparison-of-almost-all-the-best-bluetooth-headphones-post-your-own-comparisons-here/1095#post_11628083

 

And thanks to whoever suggested the Kicker Cush earpads.
I prefer the HM5 but the Cush work well too, specially once stuffed from inside. The inner diameter is 1cm more than the stock ATH pads, and they are thicker. The bass and soundstage, and I would say sound in general, is improved.

For those wanting to use them outdoors the HM5 could be too big, so, Cush, AKG K845BT and HM9 earpads are the best way.

I will update the info as soon as I get the HM9 and the AKG.


Edited by Giogio - 5/23/15 at 9:18am
post #1742 of 1749

Hello guys.

 

So I had the Sennheiser Momentum Over-Ear Headphones for more than 2 months now and the lack of bass is just... tormenting. I mainly listen to dub/dubstep and these headphones are unsatisfying. 

 

Now i've looked over the WS99s for a while now and i want to buy them because they're rated as bassy but also good for other types of music.

 

Why I came here to write this it's because I have like a soundcloud track for audition (if anyone is kind enough to give it a listen and give me some feedback) and tell me or describe me in words if the bass is really there and present and etc. with the WS99s.

 

Have to mention the fact that on Momentum this track is just.. flat. So here it goes:

 

https://soundcloud.com/egoless/alter-echo-e3-warning-dub-egoless-remix

 

Thank you

post #1743 of 1749
How would you compare the WS99 to the Pro700mk2. Trying to decide between these two. Currently have the WS55. Payday is tomorrow, so i'm hoping to order a set
post #1744 of 1749
Thread Starter 

A bass can that actually has some balance would be the best way to describe them. Way more comfortable as well.  More efficient. Overall better tuning. The bass is much faster on the WS99 as well. It is a nice upgrade over the WS55. Skip the pro700mk2s. One of the worst cans AT has ever made imo.

post #1745 of 1749

I came late to the WS99 party, but I am thoroughly enjoying them.  Got them in like new condition from a fellow Head-Fier for under $100 with HM5 pads.  To me, this arrangement has it all.  Comfort, bass, lush mids, treble, detail, sound stage, did I say comfort, just about any aspect I can think of it has in spades.  Would be nice to be able to detach the cable at the ear cups but that is the only improvement I could suggest.

 

Edit: hey Nuts, have you ever encountered any IEMs with a very similar sound signature to that of the WS99?  If so, I'd like to know what they are.


Edited by slowpickr - 6/25/15 at 8:22am
post #1746 of 1749
Well.... Looks like I won't get all my hours this week because of the pay cycle. Only got $41 :|. On the bright side i'll be able to buy new headphones and an amp at the same time. Was wondering if I should go for the Cayin C5 or C6?
post #1747 of 1749
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Originally Posted by slowpickr View Post
 

I came late to the WS99 party, but I am thoroughly enjoying them.  Got them in like new condition from a fellow Head-Fier for under $100 with HM5 pads.  To me, this arrangement has it all.  Comfort, bass, lush mids, treble, detail, sound stage, did I say comfort, just about any aspect I can think of it has in spades.  Would be nice to be able to detach the cable at the ear cups but that is the only improvement I could suggest.

 

Edit: hey Nuts, have you ever encountered any IEMs with a very similar sound signature to that of the WS99?  If so, I'd like to know what they are.

Try n get a used FX850 or FX750

post #1748 of 1749
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
 

Try n get a used FX850 or FX750

10-4 good buddy.  Will do.  Thanks.

post #1749 of 1749

Hi mate (Bodgy) I own ws99 and your tune sounds pretty enjoyable on them, the subbass is definitely well present and tight, but its not like GIANT or anything. Bear in mind, these cans are NOT flat, I listen mainly to drum and bass, more specifically neurofunk, which is pretty audiophile-y genre as far as edm goes, and listening to it with no eq (no external dac or amp either) left quite a bit to be desired in the low subbass range, as well as the high-mids and upper high range as well (snare "clack"s were somewhat pulled back and overall sparkle was not there). It sounded a bit too mid-y as well, which was enjoyable for some tunes but for others not so much, especially at higher volume. And then later I dug out a frequency response graph and I knew exactly why. Annoyingly I can't insert an image right now so I will describe it as best as I can:

 

0 db at 30 hz descending to -3 something db at 20 hz;

then a big bulge at 50-100hz (+4db) which is my guess why the low subbass seems somewhat pushed back in comparison;

then a gradual descent to quite the dip at 700 hz (-3db),

then a "mountain" from 800hz to ~1,8khz peaking at 1 something db - hence the middy-ness,

then a big ass dip from 2khz to 7khz, reaching -7,5db! at 3khz, which was producing the lack of snare (and vocal) brightness, 

then a peak at 8khz (+~2.5db)

and a dip at 15khz to -7something db again, which is the cause for the lack of high end sparkle. 

 

That said I installed AIMP player because of the more extended eq (i.e 30hz slider), and to the best of my ability made a reverse eq based on that graph, brought the preamp down then SLAMMED the bass boost DSP, and let me tell you once the cans were brought closer to flat response plus the bass boost, sound became pretty accurate and bright with quite the monstrous sub bass with no perceivable distortion or mudding of the other frequencies. My point is if you are willing to fiddle with the sound these can perform very well for bass music genres, but are not initially tuned well for them.

 

For production (I know, I know, production no-no on headphones, I'm a noob) I made a far more accurate reverse-eq and put it on the master, then I turn it off before exporting and this definitely helped, otherwise the mix I was doing was wrong as ****.

Otherwise these are fast, have good detail, narrow (intimate) soundstage, the driver grills are slightly pushed against the tips of your earlobes so you can get ear pain, yada yada you can see the reviews. 

 

PS Just now I saw that InnerFidelity has posted measurements ( http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHWS99.pdf ) so you can check out those as well, they slightly differ to what I described but are mostly the same, just pushed down some decibels for some probably technical reason I don't understand.


Edited by Aeson - 6/30/15 at 1:15am
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