Originally Posted by Bill-P
If you like Hardstyle, I don't think Audio Technica is for you. Even the high-end W3000ANV and W5000 don't seem to have that much low bass to speak of.
However, if we were talking about DT770, D2000, HE-400, or... y' know, LCD-2...
In fact, I think that if you're set on Hardstyle, then... LCD-2 is an inevitable end goal. I know for sure that that's my next purchase. LCD-2 plus some high-end desktop amp. It's only a matter of when I can comfortably do that without resorting to cup noodles for a whole month.
The ES10 is more than enough for my dubstep fix. I think the WS99 would be suitable for dubstep as well. But you obviously can't be satisfied with dubstep anymore.
Who says I want low bass? I want balanced midbass vs subbass ratio, ideally it should peak around 80Hz or so which the Signature DJ's do according to personalaudio.ru anyway, check that graph, it has precisely the basscurve/shape I'm looking for but the midrange is slightly too pushed back on the other hand versus the highrange (or in this case I'd simply want to smoothen out the highrange as the midrange compares perfectly against the bass as I want it to):
For me about 8dB peak around 80Hz, rolls off slightly down deep and starts to roll off in the upper-end before 200Hz is what I personally want based on experience, these kinds of bass curves provide the ideal amount impact with a round/hillshaped curve with about equal amount mid and subbass (I concider 80Hz roughly the barrier between subbass and midbass). I personally disliked DT770's bass, too much subbass skewed output, was lacking midbass punch for my needs. If it's more subbass skewed, then the bass output is too soft. Became particularly noticable when I compared XB700 vs XB500 on the same track, the XB500 "punched" much more, the XB700 just rumbled, but too softly so. For me DT770, D2000 and Hifimans are probably all too "soft" / subbass focused for my needs. M100, Signature DJs and hopefully WS99, are candidates which should satisfy my bass needs. The sheer quantity is what worries me about WS99, I believe it's bass type / character isn't the issue. The Q40 I use have very similar bass shape curve to the Signature DJs why I like its bass so much too, I'd just wish for overall SQ boosts even if Q40 is no slouch, it's just the upgradeitis that strikes.
Hardstyle uses equally much midbass and subbass in the "kicks". Midbass brings you the punch (impact) and the subbass brings the kick ("meat"). Well TBH, pretty much any EDM genres do, house music has very strong midbass usages too.
Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 3/31/13 at 4:59pm