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Originally Posted by pngwn View Post

The WS99 fulfills all of the things you listed. Its bass is strong, but not overpowering, and the highs and mids are well represented. The soundstage is also not bad, especially given a good amp and DAC. Like wayne, I also use the ELE DAC and BH/E12.

+1 to this. They are certainly not basshead cans. They just somehow present deep punch bass that isn't overwhelming. I spent another 4 hours or so with the WS99 and the detail in the bass region is amazing. I am a bass player and i enjoy hearing the subtleties in bass guitar tones and these headphones really deliver. With most headphones the bass tone sounds pretty much the same but with these you hear a difference ftom song to song. The other thing that is interesting is how you can hear distorted bass tones. Usually when a bass guitar is distorted it ends up blending in with the guitars but the WS99 somehow have great seperation. Its easy to hear the full frequency range of the bass and not just the fundementals.
post #1307 of 1724
I feel that they're basshead cans! They're also very balanced cans at the same time.
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also, they are quite loud/sensitive/easy to drive. at 37 ohms and 102 dB/mW they are signigicantly louder than any of my Grados at 35 ohms and 98 dB/mW. Can anyone reccomend a different cable though? I really don't like the stock 90 degree cable and would prefer a straight one.
Edited by bassboysam - 6/26/13 at 6:13am
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Originally Posted by bassboysam View Post

+1 to this. They are certainly not basshead cans. They just somehow present deep punch bass that isn't overwhelming. I spent another 4 hours or so with the WS99 and the detail in the bass region is amazing. I am a bass player and i enjoy hearing the subtleties in bass guitar tones and these headphones really deliver. With most headphones the bass tone sounds pretty much the same but with these you hear a difference ftom song to song. The other thing that is interesting is how you can hear distorted bass tones. Usually when a bass guitar is distorted it ends up blending in with the guitars but the WS99 somehow have great seperation. Its easy to hear the full frequency range of the bass and not just the fundementals.

 

Kudos, and +1 to what you said above. These are not basshead cans in the sense of booming/overwhelming bass. They are audiophile basshead cans though! And it is the way that they handle the bass that really makes them special.

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I completely agree that the 99s are not basshead cans.  They are just a fantastic all around headphone that has a nice emphasis on bass.  

 

I've put in about 3 hours on these things and I couldn't be happier.  I'm actually quite shocked that I like them so much.  Quite a bit more than my trusty M100s for a few reasons.

 

1.  They sound better unamped out of my iPod Touch 5g...not sure why really as Val at V-MODA has stated many times that the M100s (and the rest of their headphones) are made to be driven by the iPhones and iPods of the world.  When I say "sound better" I'm mostly referring to the recessed mids on the M100 that bothered me.  The 99s really bring the mids forward and mostly in line with the rest of the spectrum so nothing is really being recessed at all, which I love.  Balance!  The bass is about even to me with a slight edge to the M100s for texture and depth, but it's only slightly.  The highs are great on both so that's really a moot point...slightly smoother on the M100s and a touch of simblance (which I read goes away after a bit of burn) on the 99s, so I'll wait to really declare the M100s the winner in that area.  So overall the 99s were exactly what I was looking for.  A bass oriented portable w/ a mic for gaming, with a more even sound signature than the M100s.  They are that without a doubt.

 

2.  They are more comfortable.  They fit around my ears perfectly without any pain points.  The M100s would pinch my ear lobes on both ears and would cause a bit of pain after about an hour of use.  Like I said, I put about 3 hours on the 99s and no pain at all.  The headband is a bit awkward at first because it's so narrow and puts a bit of pressure on my head, but I got used to it and it didn't bother me at the end of my session.  It was was different than the other headbands I've got currently so it took some getting used to.

 

Those are my main two reasons for leaning towards grabbing the 99s in the evenings when I sit down to listen to music.  At least so far.  Tonight I'll break out my e12 amp and see how both fair head to head with a little more juice.  

 

So basically I really think the WS99s are a steal at under $200 right now.

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^ Glad to hear you're diggin' these so much meng. Can't wait to hear more M-100 comparisons!!! beerchug.gif

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The WS99 fulfills all of the things you listed. Its bass is strong, but not overpowering, and the highs and mids are well represented. The soundstage is also not bad, especially given a good amp and DAC. Like wayne, I also use the ELE DAC and BH/E12.

 

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+1 to this. They are certainly not basshead cans. They just somehow present deep punch bass that isn't overwhelming. I spent another 4 hours or so with the WS99 and the detail in the bass region is amazing. I am a bass player and i enjoy hearing the subtleties in bass guitar tones and these headphones really deliver. With most headphones the bass tone sounds pretty much the same but with these you hear a difference ftom song to song. The other thing that is interesting is how you can hear distorted bass tones. Usually when a bass guitar is distorted it ends up blending in with the guitars but the WS99 somehow have great seperation. Its easy to hear the full frequency range of the bass and not just the fundementals.


 

Thanks for the input. I just bough a pair from the forums here so I'll be able to find out soon if they live up to the expectations.beyersmile.png

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Will the WS99s fit what I am looking for?

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Will the WS99s fit what I am looking for?

 

The bass quantity on the 99s isn't even in the same stratosphere as the Q40s, so if that's the sound sig you like, you'll be disappointed.  That's not to say you can't coax that much bass out of the 99s (the bass boost on the e12 amp works just fine).  The midrange is much nicer on the 99s tho...not recessed at all (at least compared to the Q40s and something like the M100s).  So you might be happy with them.  As for the fit...they are pretty big and light and the clamping force is minimal.  Damn comfortable to me.

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Kinda disappointed that the bass is that far away from Q40 as for me Q40 has just the right amount bass WHEN PAIRED with ZO @ lvl 8-12 or so. xD Don't think WS99 will reach those levels of bass I crave with ZO set to higher levels either as frankly the bass doesn't increase that much past halfway on the ZO, it just gets softer (too deep), I prefer solid hard-hitting bass so need both subbass and midbas. Probably if WS99 is double-amped with 2 ZOs that I've tested too as I have all the 3 different ZO versions but with Q40 the bass gets just TOO MUCH even if it sounds pretty decent still otherwise, wondering how that would work with WS99 though if one ZO won't be enough.

post #1316 of 1724
How much bass do you need?!! Its already too much bass for me sometimes.

Im assuming you hate all open headphones? biggrin.gif
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Kinda disappointed that the bass is that far away from Q40 as for me Q40 has just the right amount bass WHEN PAIRED with ZO @ lvl 8-12 or so. xD Don't think WS99 will reach those levels of bass I crave with ZO set to higher levels either as frankly the bass doesn't increase that much past halfway on the ZO, it just gets softer (too deep), I prefer solid hard-hitting bass so need both subbass and midbas. Probably if WS99 is double-amped with 2 ZOs that I've tested too as I have all the 3 different ZO versions but with Q40 the bass gets just TOO MUCH even if it sounds pretty decent still otherwise, wondering how that would work with WS99 though if one ZO won't be enough.

 

Wow, that is a LOT of bass.  The Q40s straight out of my iPod Touch/iPad was just about perfect...any more and it would be too much.  You're talking about double amping w/ ZOs, lol...wow.

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Wow, that is a LOT of bass.  The Q40s straight out of my iPod Touch/iPad was just about perfect...any more and it would be too much.  You're talking about double amping w/ ZOs, lol...wow.

 

Well one of the ZOs would only be left at like lvl 3 or so and the other then adjusted according to my needs. This way I get more balanced amount of midbass & subbass than just using one ZO and going like past lvl16 or whatever as the higher I go on the ZO's bass boost the more subbass skewed it gets. So I would maybe be using like lvl3 + lvl 4-6 or so perhaps, this leads to much more harder hitting bass than just using one ZO. Ofc with Q40 it's way over the top as the bass is already hard hitting to boot due to balanced midbass and subbass output (the bass is centered around 80Hz which is pretty much whereabouts I'd draw the line between subbass and midbass).


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 6/28/13 at 8:20am
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Daisy chain all your ZOs together LOL
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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post

Daisy chain all your ZOs together LOL

 

:DDDDD

....With the XB500....

I think that would be able to blur the vision. lol I did test XB500 out of curiousity with 2x ZOs once and fired up a song with 25-50Hz or so bass and at some points it like slides the bass shortly up to like 100Hz and I almost felt nausea and this was at volume levels when mids and highs were very low like a few % volume on the source only.


Edited by RPGWiZaRD - 6/28/13 at 8:32am
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