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post #31 of 46
2/9/13 at 10:52pm
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

hd600 is kinda balanced sounding... if u have been fed on a pro900 diet...doubt this hd600 will satisfy u.

 

The LCD/hifiman cans are quite big/heavy in size...true?  i had the he5 before, it is best used in a home setting, or u have your own (quiet) office

to enjoy open cans? 

 

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The HE-400 isn't that heavy. Only 440g if I remember correctly.

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post #32 of 46
2/9/13 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by Lorspeaker View Post

hd600 is kinda balanced sounding... if u have been fed on a pro900 diet...doubt this hd600 will satisfy u.

 

The LCD/hifiman cans are quite big/heavy in size...true?  i had the he5 before, it is best used in a home setting, or u have your own (quiet) office

to enjoy open cans? 

 

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I do. I like the idea of a closed can because of the tighter bass characteristics and it's nice not to broadcast my music to the rest of my household (I'm married with two kids). I'm open to an open back design and I'm particularly interested in trying out a Planar headphone. I've read so many great things about them. I've heard once you go Planar you can never go back... wink.gif


Edited by bareyb - 2/9/13 at 11:01pm
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post #33 of 46
2/9/13 at 11:02pm

Then when you have an ortho the quote is,"Once you go electrostatic you never go back"wink.gif

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post #34 of 46
2/10/13 at 4:11am
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Interesting. I will add those to my short list. Do you know if they have better Bass than the DT770? I've auditioned those (have them here now in fact) and wasn't happy with the Bass compared to the 900s. 


Sorry for late response, time/area difference. The Bass on the DT770 is more pronounced/forward and is more apparent since it's a closed design, and although it has OK soundstage it doesn't compare to the DT990, which is open back.

 

If I had to compare bass to each headphone I'd rank them like this (< most bass, > less bass):

PRO900 > DT770 > DT990 > HE-400 > HD650

 

The bass on DT990 is not necessarily worse than on DT770, I just feel it's more controlled and better detailed/better quality.


Edited by Monir - 2/10/13 at 4:24am
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post #35 of 46
2/10/13 at 4:43am
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

The HE-400 isn't that heavy. Only 440g if I remember correctly.

For clarification, 440g is *huge* for a modern headphone. redface.gif (It's much heavier than the PRO900 at least).

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I do. I like the idea of a closed can because of the tighter bass characteristics and it's nice not to broadcast my music to the rest of my household (I'm married with two kids). I'm open to an open back design and I'm particularly interested in trying out a Planar headphone. I've read so many great things about them. I've heard once you go Planar you can never go back... wink.gif

Any reason the PRO2900 aren't on your radar? The 2900 are a great "try to do everything and be good at it" headphone (probably the best I've heard yet) - they have satisfying bass impact, but the bass is also quite tight and controlled. I think coming from the 900, they're a logical choice. The "fuss about open headphones" bit has me a little concerned with suggesting them though - generally open headphones are fairly airy and light (the PRO2900 kind of buck this), and will not replicate the PRO900 experience (and that, right there, is what "the fuss" is all about).

As far as "can never go back" - I think there's quite a lot of unchecked hyperbole out there. redface.gif
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post #36 of 46
2/10/13 at 5:00am

Oh yeah, I completely forgot about the 2900

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post #37 of 46
2/10/13 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by wolfetan44 View Post

The HE-400 isn't that heavy. Only 440g if I remember correctly.

For clarification, 440g is *huge* for a modern headphone. redface.gif (It's much heavier than the PRO900 at least).
 

Is it?/:

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post #38 of 46
2/10/13 at 9:47am

HE-400 has some real quality bass, and it is very eq friendly. I don't think you will be dissatisfied.

 

The dt990 is nice too.

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post #39 of 46
2/10/13 at 2:19pm
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Is it?/:

From Ultrasone's specifications, the PRO900 is 295g plus cabling (http://www.ultrasone.com/index.php/en/products/pro-900.html - click "Technical Specifications" on the left-hand column). From personal experience with a few 400-600g headphones, the PRO900 feel much lighter on the head as well. Anything over 400g is generally pretty heavy as far as headphones go. redface.gif
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post #40 of 46
2/10/13 at 2:59pm
I wouldn't read a book with the he-400 on my head, but else it doesn't annoy me
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post #41 of 46
2/10/13 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by obobskivich View Post


For clarification, 440g is *huge* for a modern headphone. redface.gif (It's much heavier than the PRO900 at least).
Any reason the PRO2900 aren't on your radar? The 2900 are a great "try to do everything and be good at it" headphone (probably the best I've heard yet) - they have satisfying bass impact, but the bass is also quite tight and controlled. I think coming from the 900, they're a logical choice. The "fuss about open headphones" bit has me a little concerned with suggesting them though - generally open headphones are fairly airy and light (the PRO2900 kind of buck this), and will not replicate the PRO900 experience (and that, right there, is what "the fuss" is all about).

As far as "can never go back" - I think there's quite a lot of unchecked hyperbole out there. redface.gif

 

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Oh yeah, I completely forgot about the 2900

You guys are pretty good... You KNEW I'd get hooked on the Ultrasones... I've been pushing myself toward the Planar idea based on the great reviews, but quite honestly, the more I listen to these Pro 900s the more I'm falling in love with them. I've never known a closed back phone to sound this open and airy and with so much details in the mids and highs. It must be the unique speaker placement. I don't know, but there is just something about these that is ADDICTIVE.  With my setup they don't sound too bright and in fact, just sound like a good set of Audiophile cans. Great detail and that BASS is just second to none. For EDM and Dubstep there's simply nothing better that I've heard. Ever. This is precisely how we tend end up with multiple sets of headphones isn't it? It's like a disease... biggrin.gif

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post #42 of 46
2/10/13 at 3:28pm

Funny, ultrasones just work for some, whilst others not at all

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post #43 of 46
2/10/13 at 3:31pm
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You guys are pretty good... You KNEW I'd get hooked on the Ultrasones... I've been pushing myself toward the Planar idea based on the great reviews, but quite honestly, the more I listen to these Pro 900s the more I'm falling in love with them. I've never known a closed back phone to sound this open and airy and with so much details in the mids and highs. It must be the unique speaker placement. I don't know, but there is just something about these that is ADDICTIVE.  With my setup they don't sound too bright and in fact, just sound like a good set of Audiophile cans. Great detail and that BASS is just second to none. For EDM and Dubstep there's simply nothing better that I've heard. Ever. This is precisely how we tend end up with multiple sets of headphones isn't it? It's like a disease... biggrin.gif

And I'll tell you the PRO2900 will gladly one-up the PRO900 on mid/treble detail and air, at the expense of some raw bass slam. I think you'd very much appreciate the PRO2900 as a compliment to your 900s. They're familiar but distinct, and since it sounds like you really enjoy the qualities of the 900 which the 2900 will improve upon, they're worth an audition.
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post #44 of 46
2/10/13 at 4:11pm

Cheap: Beyerdynamic DT990

More expensive: Hifiman HE400

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post #45 of 46
2/12/13 at 12:24pm
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Okay. I just pulled the trigger on some HE400s from Amazon.com. The Beyerdynamic DT990 will be next if this doesn't work out. I think the Sennheiser HD650 might be too hard to drive with my E11 or E17 amp... That's a concern. So HE400 it is. I already don't like the cable. Can one purchase a shorter replacement off the rack or does one have to have it custom made for 150 bucks? tongue.gif

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