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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post


Life is free, so therefore it is definitely worth it tongue.gif

Good point. 

post #617 of 3757
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Originally Posted by Jd007 View Post

that works for over-ear headphones and universal fits, but for custom fit IEMs like the JH16 its a bit hard to try

I kinda feel like it's even harder for people to take in the cost factor when you tell them it's a CIEM and they can't even hear what your money has bought you. They're thinking," that's a cool, weird looking thing you've got there." or "Is he going deaf? why does he need hearing aids"?

post #618 of 3757
At least with customs nobody will ever be able to prove if all that effort and expense has been worth it. That secret stays between you and your wallet.

Universals on the other hand - well if two other people think your artery bustingly expensive iems are worse than their ibuds, well that must statistically mean you got robbed.
Edited by Muzeick - 7/18/13 at 4:15am
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Originally Posted by Muzeick View Post

At least with customs nobody will ever be able to prove if all that effort and expense has been worth it. That secret stays between you and your wallet.

Universals on the other hand - well if two other people think your artery bustingly expensive iems are worse than their ibuds, well that must statistically mean you got robbed.

Perception of the value of an item will always be different from person to person. Deciding if the product matches the value you place upon it is really all that matters.


Speaking of Non Audiophiles reactions to high end headphones I myself wasn't very into HiFi audio products until I picked up a pair of V-Moda IEM's from a parking lot that had been run over a couple times. I cleaned them up and started listening to them suddenly realizing there was a whole world of music I had been missing. Long story short I'm steadily moving up in quality on my audio equipment journey.

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Aw, you rescued those poor little V-Modas... Sniff, sniff, it warms the heart.

Remember kids: iems are for life, not just for Christmas.
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It baffles me sometimes when people think that mid-fi headphones like dt770 and hfi 580 (only two i can show off, lol) sound worse than the beats/skullcandy ect.

Friend: "Yep these are pretty good. Have you heard of beats? Those are like, twice as good as these"

I can barely even get people to like them with my fiio e11 set to eq 2...
post #622 of 3757
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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

It baffles me sometimes when people think that mid-fi headphones like dt770 and hfi 580 (only two i can show off, lol) sound worse than the beats/skullcandy ect.

Friend: "Yep these are pretty good. Have you heard of beats? Those are like, twice as good as these"

I can barely even get people to like them with my fiio e11 set to eq 2...

Same with me, my friends think my DT880's have no bass at all. I guess what people are looking for nowadays is fart cannon, bloated, muddy bass that's messes up the entire spectrum.
post #623 of 3757
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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post

Same with me, my friends think my DT880's have no bass at all. I guess what people are looking for nowadays is fart cannon, bloated, muddy bass that's messes up the entire spectrum.

It's all bass and loudness, they pay no attention to what music actually sounds like.
post #624 of 3757
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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

It baffles me sometimes when people think that mid-fi headphones like dt770 and hfi 580 (only two i can show off, lol) sound worse than the beats/skullcandy ect.

Friend: "Yep these are pretty good. Have you heard of beats? Those are like, twice as good as these"

I can barely even get people to like them with my fiio e11 set to eq 2...

   Holy mother of---

   The gen-coms are way out of their mind. Seriously? I would like to ask, "What is this world turning into?"

   If only Beyers and Senns were advertised more...Beats wouldn't exist.

post #625 of 3757
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post

   Holy mother of---
   The gen-coms are way out of their mind. Seriously? I would like to ask, "What is this world turning into?"
   If only Beyers and Senns were advertised more...Beats wouldn't exist.

They wouldn't really buy Beyers or Senns since they don't look as good as they want. Style + Bloated bass = what 90% of the people want unfortunately.
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And you guys forget that sound is all subjective again. If they like it, then it's better (to their ears). Some guy said his bundled earphones sound better than my $80 IEMs (and once again it just packs more bass punch than mine, other than that everything else, the clarity, the mid, the soundstage, presentation are all worse). I felt sad at first but soon got over it. Sometime you have to understand that people care less about actual quality sound, and without interests they will never appreciate this hobby.

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So a couple of days ago, I was talking to a friend(I don't tell people im audiophiles, as to not bring on an argument or such) and I brought up the question of what did she listen to music through. She replied with beats, but she also said there were these IEM's that she liked a lot better than her beats. I asked her which IEMs they were, and she told me a while later as she wasn't near them at the time.

 

They were V-Moda Faders, I wanted to say something like, "Well, yea, you have a company known for poor SQ and good looks, than you have a half-and-half audiophile company, of course your going to like the V-Moda's better." But to not entail a arguement/ me explaining everything way too indepth, I did not.

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Most of these people who can't tell the difference between high-end products and low-end products seem to be people who mostly have little depth in appreciation or understanding of music to begin with. It would make sense that loudness and bass would be the only thing that many people seek in their music if they are ignorant of the pieces and components that make up the music themselves.

 

Think of it in terms of photography. I believe that the vast majority of people are physically capable of hearing the differences between low end and high end products if they could understand how the gear changes the output. One is unlikely to be able to appreciate the difference between cheap and expensive lenses or cameras or flash modules if they have no real appreciation for photography, just the same as audio gear. You have to be educated about the components and how they all come together; some people get it, and a whole lot of people don't.


Edited by Tus-Chan - 7/18/13 at 12:17pm
post #629 of 3757
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Originally Posted by Tus-Chan View Post

Most of these people who can't tell the difference between high-end products and low-end products seem to be people who mostly have little depth in appreciation or understanding of music to begin with. It would make sense that loudness and bass would be the only thing that many people seek in their music if they are ignorant of the pieces and components that make up the music themselves.

Think of it in terms of photography. I believe that the vast majority of people are physically capable of hearing the differences between low end and high end products if they could understand how the gear changes the output. One is unlikely to be able to appreciate the difference between cheap and expensive lenses or cameras or flash modules if they have no real appreciation for photography, just the same as audio gear. You have to be educated about the components and how they all come together; some people get it, and a whole lot of people don't.

The difference is that most people can enjoy music whatever its bit rate, whatever the speakers or earphones and whatever the player. Whereas audiophiles are so uptight sweating the tiniest details and brushstrokes that they miss the beauty of the picture. Confusing the medium with the message.
post #630 of 3757
I agree with muzeick. To appreciate music as a whole you don't need expensive gear. To enjoy the purity of sound good gear helps a lot.
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