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post #3676 of 3941

A lot of the early posts here were great, but then this just turned into a Beats bashing/online etiquette thread.

post #3677 of 3941
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Originally Posted by semaj8james View Post
 

I'm afraid it's now come down to looks rather than quality nowadays. Granted HE-400's are ugly as sin IMHO, but HFI's are decent. I'm not going to lie though, Beats do look pretty snazzy and I want to get a broken pair of Studios and put some DT 770 Drivers in them if I can, or even scrap out my 580's or buy some M50's and put those drivers in some Beats. 

Although I really don't care for the look of Beats myself, that's a pretty neat idea. Could have an awful lot of fun messing with people like that :)

post #3678 of 3941
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Originally Posted by gauchotodd View Post

Although I really don't care for the look of Beats myself, that's a pretty neat idea. Could have an awful lot of fun messing with people like that smily_headphones1.gif

Especially if they heard the 770 Driver ones and went "Wow!" Just to get a pair themselves and hear nothing but bass. Oh the irony
post #3679 of 3941

Or you could get Sennheiser Momentums, and have both great sound and sweet looks. :tongue_smile:

post #3680 of 3941
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Originally Posted by Zojokkeli View Post

Or you could get Sennheiser Momentums, and have both great sound and sweet looks. tongue_smile.gif
meh... I say UE6000.
post #3681 of 3941
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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


meh... I say UE6000.

Don't mind him; he just got his UE6000 and is hyping them. Don't mind him.

post #3682 of 3941
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Originally Posted by Show View Post

And I forgot to add, I am a PortaPro approver smily_headphones1.gif If only the "cool kids" would give them a try, we wouldn't have the abomination called "Beats by """Dr."""" plague.
I gave them to a beats lover. He loved them. Anyway, to my ears they are my best cans.
post #3683 of 3941

The marketing is effective, that's what matters. A business is out to make money and whoever ran the marketing campaign for Beats is a baws. We have to be careful of a few things when talking about beats... For example, lumping all Beats into one category, calling them all the same, when the newer versions are better than the first... For calling them "trash" and saying a $20 headphone or free earphones are better, which is just a gross, dishonest, exaggeration. And it also hints at the next point: Bias. We know the powers of placebo and expectation bias. And it's not like Beats users are the only ones who purchase based on brand, we do it for many other things in life, and probably for audio to an extent, and we let the price subconsciously tell us that "more expensive = better". Are Beats the best value at that price? No, but they're not utter garbage. Not being the best choice doesn't mean it's the worst thing to ever exist. Even if somebody wants to buy a headphone as a $300 fashion accessory, it's not like that's the most expensive fashion accessory to ever exist, either. Different people put value in different things. I guarantee you if you give Beats and my HD800s/LCD-X to my mother, it's not even necessarily that she won't be able to tell a difference, it's that she cares so little and thinks it's such a waste of time, you'll have a hard time getting her to put a pair on for testing. And yes, she does listen to music. Just an example, to show just how different all of us are in what we look for in a product. Hating Beats the most doesn't make you the best audiophile ever.

 

My two cents.


Edited by Dark_wizzie - 8/6/14 at 9:36pm
post #3684 of 3941
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Originally Posted by Dark_wizzie View Post

The marketing is effective, that's what matters. A business is out to make money and whoever ran the marketing campaign for Beats is a baws. We have to be careful of a few things when talking about beats... For example, lumping all Beats into one category, calling them all the same, when the newer versions are better than the first... For calling them "trash" and saying a $20 headphone or free earphones are better, which is just a gross, dishonest, exaggeration. And it also hints at the next point: Bias. We know the powers of placebo and expectation bias. And it's not like Beats users are the only ones who purchase based on brand, we do it for many other things in life, and probably for audio to an extent, and we let the price subconsciously tell us that "more expensive = better".

My two cents.
Yeah, I heard the revamped ones are way better, but still a bit overpriced. Their marketing is excellent but not all good has come of it.
post #3685 of 3941
I hear Bose is sueing beats over who has the strongest BS marketing. smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by Sal1950 - 8/6/14 at 10:09pm
post #3686 of 3941

Not a personal attack, just trying to subtract some political correctness...

 

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Originally Posted by Dark_wizzie View Post
 

1 ... For calling them "trash" and saying a $20 headphone or free earphones are better, which is just a gross, dishonest, exaggeration.

 

2 Not being the best choice doesn't mean it's the worst thing to ever exist. Even if somebody wants to buy a headphone as a $300 fashion accessory...

 

3 Hating Beats the most doesn't make you the best audiophile ever.

1 $20 (yes, they can be had for $20) buys a pair of Porta Pros. They sound better than the counter part (but far more expensive) Beats Solo. 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-square-wave-response-page-2

 

2 It is far from the best choice at any price point product they have. I agree about fashion subjectiveness.

 

3 But it puts you on the right path.

post #3687 of 3941
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Originally Posted by Show View Post
 

Not a personal attack, just trying to subtract some political correctness...

 

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Originally Posted by Dark_wizzie View Post
 

1 ... For calling them "trash" and saying a $20 headphone or free earphones are better, which is just a gross, dishonest, exaggeration.

 

2 Not being the best choice doesn't mean it's the worst thing to ever exist. Even if somebody wants to buy a headphone as a $300 fashion accessory...

 

3 Hating Beats the most doesn't make you the best audiophile ever.

1 $20 (yes, they can be had for $20) buys a pair of Porta Pros. They sound better than the counter part (but far more expensive) Beats Solo. 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-square-wave-response-page-2

 

2 It is far from the best choice at any price point product they have. I agree about fashion subjectiveness.

 

3 But it puts you on the right path.

 

+1 mate, spot-on.

post #3688 of 3941
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Originally Posted by Show View Post

1 $20 (yes, they can be had for $20) buys a pair of Porta Pros. They sound better than the counter part (but far more expensive) Beats Solo. 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-square-wave-response-page-2

2 It is far from the best choice at any price point product they have. I agree about fashion subjectiveness.

3 But it puts you on the right path.
go try a solo 2 or a studio 2 before you judge. They run with v-moda sq wise. wink.gif trust me.
post #3689 of 3941
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Originally Posted by Show View Post
 

1 $20 (yes, they can be had for $20) buys a pair of Porta Pros. They sound better than the counter part (but far more expensive) Beats Solo. 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-square-wave-response-page-2

 

2 It is far from the best choice at any price point product they have. I agree about fashion subjectiveness.

 

3 But it puts you on the right path.

1. That must be a great deal then - One that seriously contrasts the thousands people send on phones and amps. I've brought people to a Headfi meet and had a friend who honestly preferred his own $30 earphones over every single headphone in the meet. (Insert discussion about measurements vs subjective experience/personal preferences here) The article is also somewhat old.

2. -

3. That's just snobbery. Nothing ruins a good party like that one guy who won't let go of the fact that somebody walked in with Beats on or with a Macbook Pro or a male Gucci wallet for men.

post #3690 of 3941

I've tried the studio 2 (cheapest I have ever seen is a once off promo for ~AUD$250) at my local generic AV store... the SQ wasn't to my taste, neither is price tag. The build quality was outwardly good, but close inspection shows that that's all aesthetic slap ons.

 

I've tried a M100 that a friend bought for AUD$220 delivered. The demo was too far apart from the studio 2 but it didn't appeal to me as well, however, the build quality is impressive.

 

Given the option between the two, it's a clear choice that the V-Moda is better if the SQ were similar.

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