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Touche. Most of my friends who tried my headphones asked that very question. "The purpose of headphone is to listen to music while blocking out noise, so you won't get distracted while listening to it. If a headphone leaks ambient noise, that defeats the purpose of using headphones in the first place".
depends on how you explain it. I usually tell people it makes the music sound like the artist is actually there because the sound has space to breathe. Use lots of descriptive words, and if they persist the point of a headphone is to isolate, then counter with something like this: "Your headphones are made to do that. My headphones are made to play back music as realistically as possible. The open back contributes to the Uber real sound quality. And, why would I need to isolate myself when I'm in my own home and everything is quiet? (unless you are using them as portable. Then say, why do I need to isolate myself from people? Where in the definition of headphone does it say its made to isolate? The definition of headphone is two speakers held close to your ears by an object that connects them together. (I actually don't know if that was the definition. It just sounds right, and nobody you talk to will look it up.)

They don't care.

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Touche. Most of my friends who tried my headphones asked that very question. "The purpose of headphone is to listen to music while blocking out noise, so you won't get distracted while listening to it. If a headphone leaks ambient noise, that defeats the purpose of using headphones in the first place".
depends on how you explain it. I usually tell people it makes the music sound like the artist is actually there because the sound has space to breathe. Use lots of descriptive words, and if they persist the point of a headphone is to isolate, then counter with something like this: "Your headphones are made to do that. My headphones are made to play back music as realistically as possible. The open back contributes to the Uber real sound quality. And, why would I need to isolate myself when I'm in my own home and everything is quiet? (unless you are using them as portable. Then say, why do I need to isolate myself from people? Where in the definition of headphone does it say its made to isolate? The definition of headphone is two speakers held close to your ears by an object that connects them together. (I actually don't know if that was the definition. It just sounds right, and nobody you talk to will look it up.)


They don't care.

Exactly. I mean, what's the point of shoving down intellectual opinions down their throats when they don't understand -- rather, they don't want to understand? They will stand by their opinions, and you will stand by yours. Trying to break down their wall will be as difficult as them breaking down your wall. It's pretty much the same thing.

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Exactly. I mean, what's the point of shoving down intellectual opinions down their throats when they don't understand -- rather, they don't want to understand? They will stand by their opinions, and you will stand by yours. Trying to break down their wall will be as difficult as them breaking down your wall. It's pretty much the same thing.

Agree. I would rather just "okay~ maybe we view headphones from different angel" end.

Indeed open headphone usually offer better soundstage and etc but saying that as a reason why one should go for open headphone can be misleading at some point. I mean, don't speakers do better than open headphone in terms of soundstage etc? However, speaker requires a good room and etc. It is just a matter of preference. No need of argument IMO
post #3319 of 4637

It all boils down to this: ymmv.

 

I won't force my cans on someone unless they want a try and they have to ask me. I won't offer it to them.

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It all boils down to this: ymmv.

 

I won't force my cans on someone unless they want a try and they have to ask me. I won't offer it to them.

 

This. I'm not going to waste my time debating with someone who shares different perspective on my passion, in this case audio. So why should I force someone to try out my cans when I know chances are they are not going to appreciate it as much as I do? They might like it, but won't appreciate it.

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This. I'm not going to waste my time debating with someone who shares different perspective on my passion, in this case audio. So why should I force someone to try out my cans when I know chances are they are not going to appreciate it as much as I do? They might like it, but won't appreciate it.

Chances are, they aren't going to hear a difference.

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Chances are, they aren't going to hear a difference.

 

They hear differences alright, every single non-audiophile friend of mine can hear the difference between the HD800 and T1 and Q701. But do they appreciate the difference? That's a whole lot of different question.

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Exactly. I mean, what's the point of shoving down intellectual opinions down their throats when they don't understand -- rather, they don't want to understand? They will stand by their opinions, and you will stand by yours. Trying to break down their wall will be as difficult as them breaking down your wall. It's pretty much the same thing.

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Agree. I would rather just "okay~ maybe we view headphones from different angel" end.

Indeed open headphone usually offer better soundstage and etc but saying that as a reason why one should go for open headphone can be misleading at some point. I mean, don't speakers do better than open headphone in terms of soundstage etc? However, speaker requires a good room and etc. It is just a matter of preference. No need of argument IMO
they don't see it as me being hostile. Trust me. It worked on my friends. I have 3 looking into audiophile cans... And, I said the open back contributes. I didn't say causes. You just have to put your audio jargon into a simple sentence or two. Use analogies, and descriptive words. Keep their attention. Entertain them a little while imparting your knowledge, and they'll pay attention. I really, only let people see my cans if I know them well enough, and if they are genuinely interested.
Edited by DisCHORDDubstep - 5/24/14 at 11:39pm
post #3324 of 4637
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They hear differences alright, every single non-audiophile friend of mine can hear the difference between the HD800 and T1 and Q701. But do they appreciate the difference? That's a whole lot of different question.

It comes down to how much of a priority they place on music and if the costs justify the difference. Much the same with anything, just like how most people can tell the difference between driving a dodge and a bmw. Obviously the cost difference is massive when it comes to cars, but if you only care about point A to B the difference to you won't be anything substantial. 

 

Though I will always think it's worth sharing what you are passionate about with others, you never know if they will enjoy it as well. 

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I have had a different reaction with my own daughter (age 16). She insisted on a pair of Beats (Justin Bieber signature):rolleyes: two years ago. She was witness to my splurge on HPs - Audez'e, Fostex etc etc. One day, she tried my ATH-M50 and that was the last time I saw that HP (of course, its hooked on to one of her laptops). Five months ago, I was using the Fostex TH 900 and she tried it. Her first reaction: "Wow, this headphone has lifted the veil off the music". She is now on board completely with my HP collection and the TH 900 is her favorite. Can't find her Beats (thank God) :biggrin:.

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I've encountered this in many of my hobbies.  People give me a hard time for spending money on headphones, Apple gadgets, DSLR gear and driving a nice car.  I've been blessed and do pretty well, but I don't have money coming out my ears.  We still struggle.  I tell these people it's all about choices.  I don't have a cabin up north like many of them do.  I don't have a boat, jet skis or other recreational toys.  I don't (anymore) have RC toys everywhere.  It's all about choices.  There are even people who are just frugal and don't have hobbies at all.  I wish I had more of that savings instinct honestly.  But life is about the pursuit of happiness.  We all find bits of happiness in different ways.  So I try not to criticize others for what they find joy in, and just try to point this out when they are seemingly judging my pursuits.  I don't push things on anyone in any way, but people see them and ask questions.  I get tired of feeling like I'm being judged.  I feel as though I focus my hobbies on things I will have time to enjoy all the time.  

post #3327 of 4637
To be fair, you're still pretty stupid if you bring open headphones to public areas. Especially noisy ones. Closed leak less noise and block a little. Good for not annoying the schiit out of others. Even better, try IEMs.

They can block anywhere from 24-32db. That can reduce the sound of a motorcycle into an average conversation! No one can hear them either, unless you're listening at 85db+

There's a reason they're so popular.
Edited by Hapster - 5/25/14 at 5:12am
post #3328 of 4637
My mom tried my TH600's and was very impressed, but she's just not into sitting down and listening to music like I do and still griefs me that "I spend far too much money on headphones" and is bewildered to why I have more than a few pairs of cans.

My moms frame of mind is - surely all you need is one pair of headphones at any one time and certainly not ones that cost more than £100/$60 - I don't even try to explain headphone amplifiers to her - bless - gotta love yer folks smily_headphones1.gif
post #3329 of 4637
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To be fair, you're still pretty stupid if you bring open headphones to public areas. Especially noisy ones. Closed leak less noise and block a little. Good for not annoying the **** out of others. Even better, try IEMs.

They can block anywhere from 24-32db. That can reduce the sound of a motorcycle into an average conversation! No one can hear them either, unless you're listening at 85db+

There's a reason they're so popular.

Well, I can still hear my brother's music with Jabra Vox wonder how can one stands it... 

post #3330 of 4637
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Originally Posted by Hapster View Post

To be fair, you're still pretty stupid if you bring open headphones to public areas. Especially noisy ones. Closed leak less noise and block a little. Good for not annoying the **** out of others. Even better, try IEMs.

They can block anywhere from 24-32db. That can reduce the sound of a motorcycle into an average conversation! No one can hear them either, unless you're listening at 85db+

There's a reason they're so popular.

If beats ever released an open headphone - the world as we know it surely would end (lol) biggrin.gif
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