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post #2221 of 3591
Hey guys! I got an awesome reaction!

So i just recieved my o2.... Which i LOVE

But anyways i decided to have my dad give it a go with my signature djs. He has heard them before with an e11 in a noisy room...
And even then he was impressed. He started making music about a year ago and he has been much more in tune with sound signatures, differences in detail, ect.

Now i got him tired, in a dead silent room, on a comfy chair, with a better amp and time to spare. Oh, and a collection of his favorite music. (Mettallica, a few melodic dubstep tracks, a couple movie soundtrack songs...)

Well, he listened to mettalica first. He closes his eyes and leans back and i can tell he has gone into a trance. Every once in a while he murmurs "thats crazy" or chuckles from awe. The song ends (what... 7 minutes later?) and he doesnt open his eyes. He simply says "i havent heard half of the song until now.... Play more"

Well, i obliged. 30 minutes later he had to go pick my mom up from the airport. He started talking to me about how we need to find headphone splitters so we can listen to music together, and simply how 'wowed' he was about how "the chello was on the right with the flutes a bit further forward" or something similar to that.

He said there was atleast a 30% improvement in sound, lol. I was satisfied to say the least.
post #2222 of 3591

HAha, sounds like you made a convert!!

post #2223 of 3591
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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

Hey guys! I got an awesome reaction!

So i just recieved my o2.... Which i LOVE

But anyways i decided to have my dad give it a go with my signature djs. He has heard them before with an e11 in a noisy room...
And even then he was impressed. He started making music about a year ago and he has been much more in tune with sound signatures, differences in detail, ect.

Now i got him tired, in a dead silent room, on a comfy chair, with a better amp and time to spare. Oh, and a collection of his favorite music. (Mettallica, a few melodic dubstep tracks, a couple movie soundtrack songs...)

Well, he listened to mettalica first. He closes his eyes and leans back and i can tell he has gone into a trance. Every once in a while he murmurs "thats crazy" or chuckles from awe. The song ends (what... 7 minutes later?) and he doesnt open his eyes. He simply says "i havent heard half of the song until now.... Play more"

Well, i obliged. 30 minutes later he had to go pick my mom up from the airport. He started talking to me about how we need to find headphone splitters so we can listen to music together, and simply how 'wowed' he was about how "the chello was on the right with the flutes a bit further forward" or something similar to that.

He said there was atleast a 30% improvement in sound, lol. I was satisfied to say the least.
good for u!
maybe u can get him to buy u a Lyr or 339/337 and a he500? tell him that metallica and those dubstep tracks will blow his mind then...u can always try! trust me..if he is really into music and knows that those are pretty affordable..he maybe will go for it after listening to such a rig..
tip: make him go with u to a local headfi meet...and make sure someone has exactly that rig..let him listen to the right music (u secretly brought with u..especially in lossless quality) and then let the games begin wink.gif
post #2224 of 3591
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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post



He said there was atleast a 30% improvement in sound, lol. I was satisfied to say the least.

Haha, I love the arbitrary numerical amount it is better by compared to his old sound. Glad he enjoyed it though, but make sure to apologize for his wallet sometime soon, because if this goes on, he might end up spending a bunch lol. 

post #2225 of 3591
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


good for u!
maybe u can get him to buy u a Lyr or 339/337 and a he500? tell him that metallica and those dubstep tracks will blow his mind then...u can always try! trust me..if he is really into music and knows that those are pretty affordable..he maybe will go for it after listening to such a rig..
tip: make him go with u to a local headfi meet...and make sure someone has exactly that rig..let him listen to the right music (u secretly brought with u..especially in lossless quality) and then let the games begin wink.gif

LOL use his new found love of good sound for personal gain. I like the way you think. Sneaky sneaky. ;) 

post #2226 of 3591
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

good for u!
maybe u can get him to buy u a Lyr or 339/337 and a he500? tell him that metallica and those dubstep tracks will blow his mind then...u can always try! trust me..if he is really into music and knows that those are pretty affordable..he maybe will go for it after listening to such a rig..
tip: make him go with u to a local headfi meet...and make sure someone has exactly that rig..let him listen to the right music (u secretly brought with u..especially in lossless quality) and then let the games begin wink.gif

Hehe... Well, i already have recommended some grados as his fav music is mostly older rock and orchestral music (movie soundtracks mostly). He has a couple songs of mine (the dubstep ones) that he loves as well, but older rock is where his heart is at. Now my problem is trying to find a pair that will "amaze him" like mine that wont make the family go bankrupt... LOL

Edit: but i like the head fi meet idea.... It just might work smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by sloomingbla - 3/25/14 at 8:00pm
post #2227 of 3591
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Originally Posted by SlimShadyMJ View Post

Haha, I love the arbitrary numerical amount it is better by compared to his old sound. Glad he enjoyed it though, but make sure to apologize for his wallet sometime soon, because if this goes on, he might end up spending a bunch lol. 

I know i laughed when he said that and he looked at me with a confused expression and i said "its nothing"
post #2228 of 3591
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Originally Posted by sloomingbla View Post

Hehe... Well, i already have recommended some grados as his fav music is mostly older rock and orchestral music (movie soundtracks mostly). He has a couple songs of mine (the dubstep ones) that he loves as well, but older rock is where his heart is at. Now my problem is trying to find a pair that will "amaze him" like mine that wont make the family go bankrupt... LOL
I don't exactly know what cans are good for 70-80's rock to be honest... And that's what makes up a third of my music library!... Hmm... You could always have a poke around on the other threads, maybe search best cans for 70's/80's rock?
post #2229 of 3591
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Originally Posted by SlimShadyMJ View Post

LOL use his new found love of good sound for personal gain. I like the way you think. Sneaky sneaky. wink.gif  
here in the netherlands we have a saying..".its easier to bend the metal when its red hot"..so bend away biggrin.gif

and its human nature that ur more influencial when u just experienced something better then what ur customed to..its just the way how u can control that to ur favor what matters..

but dont forget..in this case its a win-win situation..both will win in this..as both their soundexperience will be better..and they will be more closer to each other...more quality time between son and dad...

what else u want? am just trying to make their bond ever tighter..am not evil or sneaky..really!! :veryevil:i

about cans for 70-80's rock..like queen and meatloaf? well...i would advice...try the he500 with a fine (warmer sounding) amp..like a lyr or 337/339..very balanced! he will be delighted and buy it on the spot...I DID just that when i heard some live recordings of older tracks of Queen on lossless media on such a rig!!!! i was blown away.....i was sold!

especially with older, more analog sounding vinyl rips its wonderfull..dont get a he400!

and the he500 is going to be cheap soon second hand as a new model will come out soon, the 560..so many 500 owners will put their 500 for sale for low price to get the new model..maybe even as low as 350usd!
Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/25/14 at 8:17pm
post #2230 of 3591
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

here in the netherlands we have a saying..".its easier to bend the metal when its red hot"..so bend away biggrin.gif

and its human nature that ur more influencial when u just experienced something better then what ur customed to..its just the way how u can control that to ur favor what matters..

but dont forget..in this case its a win-win situation..both will win in this..as both their soundexperience will be better..and they will be more closer to each other...more quality time between son and dad...

what else u want? am just trying to make their bond ever tighter..am not evil or sneaky..really!! :veryevil:i

about cans for 70-80's rock..like queen and meatloaf? well...i would advice...try the he500 with a fine (warmer sounding) amp..like a lyr or 337/339..very balanced! he will be delighted and buy it on the spot...I DID just that when i heard some live recordings of older tracks of Queen on lossless media on such a rig!!!! i was blown away.....i was sold!

especially with older, more analog sounding vinyl rips its wonderfull..dont get a he400!

and the he500 is going to be cheap soon second hand as a new model will come out soon, the 560..so many 500 owners will put their 500 for sale for low price to get the new model..maybe even as low as 350usd!

Lol, well if i could just get him to a headfi meet i would show him.... EVERYTHING!

But yeah i will watch for some of those cheaper he500s wink.gif
post #2231 of 3591
I might be a bit late in chiming in but my HE500s will have no hope of playing the bass notes on some of those hip hop or really sub bass heavy songs. The JVC Sz2000 did really pump it out like it was nothing. In some songs it even made the TH600 which is a bass head can sound almost like a treble head can in comparison. So there are some songs which the HE500s do not do justice in the sub bass regions no matter what amp you try. Anyhow the SZ2000 was not my cup of tea so they've been sold now. It was like strapping 18 inch subs to your head. I wasn't listening to near enough low bass stuff to justify keeping and it didn't do well enough on other genres
post #2232 of 3591
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

Then something is insanely broken because none of the HE's have been able to produce anything even vaguely resembling Beats bass in my experience, including the HE-6. 

We meet again.

My Hifiman HE-300 has way more clearer bass than my beats pro detox do, at double the cost. When you try to pump up the detox (or studio, or solo, I also had these two models), you don't get bass, you get distortion mixed with bass. The beats would win if distortion is counted as bass, the hifiman's win if it isn't. Your average beats guy won't notice it though, because he thinks it is pure bass. I used to be that guy.

 

PS: Yes, all of the models were original and here was nothing wrong with them.

 

Edit: Sorry, I don't want to derail the thread again!


Edited by kilspeed111 - 3/26/14 at 5:02am
post #2233 of 3591
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


dude..why for gods sake u talk about those FAKE bass heavy phones with so much respect...they dont come close to the original sound..not even in million miles close..that bass is totally fake...i had almost all hifiman phones and i can tell ya..at least the he400..my most hated hifiman, gives u such a big bass u will **** yourselves...how in a million years u can say u need more bass then that phone on a decent amp???

if its even more its totally fake!! as for sure its not on the track recorded! its like turning the bass knob on those vintage receivers on max...yes u have bass..but u wont hear anything else...u cant be proud of that..seriously...

i agree people buy those phones because of the looks...youngsters are like that...LOOKS..but come on...tht bass is not real bass...its something else..something artificial forced INTO the music..u cant honestly believe that what u her through those beats come close to the real thing..or edm or whetever music u listen to...the bass u hear in clubs is hugely distorded, played through HUGE speakers. so what u think u hear is also partly what u feel. As that what speakers do, they make u feel bass..

beats tries to imitate that by artificially pump up that bass to the extreme and people are believed that that is good music..or good bass...its not...real bass (midbass going into low bass) is bass that comes close to the recording..and some Hifiman's do a very good job in that.

We think the same way, the bass on the beats is more distortion than anything else ^.^ (Yes, even the MIXR, which sounded horrible to me. Can't talk about the studio 2013 since I haven't tried these yet.)

 

Edit: Sorry, don't want to derail the thread again!


Edited by kilspeed111 - 3/26/14 at 5:02am
post #2234 of 3591

http://www.digitalversus.com/headphones/beats-by-dr-dre-studio-2013-p16983/test.html

 

Review indicates that Beats is improving... Good for them (honestly, I'm not being sarcastic here... at least they're starting to try)

 

I'd still not pay for those though... cause it's not my preference (and I don't like the idea of further padding that man's wallet) and I don't like the hiss from active noise cancelling. Supporting a newer startup like Audeze tho??? Fine by me :D 

post #2235 of 3591
I want to see HiFiMan attempt a closed can, then a "portable" can (shorter cable, smaller overall footprint, relatively easy to drive like the HE-300 but planar still.
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