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post #1561 of 4029
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Originally Posted by jodgey4 View Post
 

 

 

He wants to try open headphones for gaming, we play competitive CS:GO in a clan (way more than we should) - most everybody in our group uses M50's which aren't optimal for gaming, but they do beat the $60 'gaming' headsets they came from, and they all appreciate the difference. It's hilarious to hear teammates get mad when someone isn't wearing them, and gets popped in the back because they couldn't hear an approaching enemy :).

One of them tries to talk to me about headphones and audio when I see him, and he made a gaming headphone purchase recently and he was trying to kind of show them off to me for approval... it was cute. At one point he was considering Noble 3's even... This whole wallet destroying thing is contagious if you have friends! I feel like I'm slowly poisoning/corrupting everybody around me. Woot.

 

.....but WOW I got sidetracked (even though its even more on topic to the thread :tongue_smile:)! To the people I quoted: I should have been more clear, he wants more bass from what my PC163D's have - which roll off in the low bass. They are detailed lows, but boring and texture-less. I wish I could find a frequency response graph for them as a reference point.

 

I have shared your concerns though and honestly thought the same on all points, down to the loving of monoprice, x1's, and orthos. I lurk hard on this site, I'm glad we're on the same page. I have decided to start a thread in the recommendations thread voicing these ideas... I'll let the pros who have burned through what little disposable income they may or may not have had handle this.

 

So now, back to your regularly scheduled program of tricking others into spending their money!

 

hah, my wife games on M50's.  she loves them.  she likes bass too, so it might be why she likes them so much.

 

i run HD650's and they're incredible for music, but "ok" for gaming.  I'm really considering a pair of HE-400's.  they're down to $300 now which is a steal.   I think they'll be much better for gaming.  (and I listen to a lot of electronic music and recently, a lot more dubstep, so I think orthos with their impressive bass will be a nice change)

post #1562 of 4029
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Originally Posted by Eternal Schism View Post

I very much doubt that blindfolded someone would not be able to pick out the differences between a HD800 and say a LCD2

 

Sorry for the meta post, where in the thread was this claimed? I'm having trouble finding it.

 

(Not trying to be rude or sarcastic)

 

Solved, two posts below. Thanks mate!


Edited by White Lotus - 3/3/14 at 3:28am
post #1563 of 4029
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

It's actually been done quite a few times, chiefly with A/V cables. There's never a difference in anything but durability. That's one thing I like about the V-MODA cable, it's kevlar so I know I won't snap it, but that's the only benefit. 

 

I mean, obviously all headphones have their own signature, but to my eyes it's like expensive televisions. They don't have the exact same picture, but if you sit everyone in front of a big wall of them, they won't all pick the same on that they think looks best. In addition, buying a 4K capable television (the equivalent of $2,000 planar magnetic headphones) in order to watch Netflix and broadcast television is pointless anyway.

 

Maybe those Audeze LCD-3's are capable of higher fidelity, clearer sound. They probably are. But unless you're listening to a completely lossless, PERFECTLY produced piece of audio with a flawless DAC/AMP combination, first of all you won't even be sending anything through those speakers that warrants all the hardware. Additionally, there's a limit to how much fidelity the ear can differentiate anyway. 

 

Like I said, I would love to do a blind test of a couple dozen headphone types of the same ilk (closed vs closed, open vs open) and see just how much of a difference one can hear if one isn't told that this one cost $300 and this one cost $3000.

 

I think it's the opposite.  Get your average Jane without hearing damage and get them to blind test the latest flagship from Beyerdynamic or whatever and their previous flagship.  I have reason to believe the average Jane will immediately notice the superiority of the latest generation flagships.  If average Jane picks it up...for aficionado's the difference is a big one.

 

Which worries me when some people claim, I'll give an example that occurs here often, that the T1 is no better than the former flagships.  Frankly I trust average Jane much more than experienced head-fier Joe.  The key here is overall articulation of the drivers, for me there is a clear divide in this specific area.  Not even measurements work here, and I find the only correlating factor for this divide is market pricing.

post #1564 of 4029
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

 

Sorry for the meta post, where in the thread was this claimed? I'm having trouble finding it.

 

(Not trying to be rude or sarcastic)

 

It wasn't, I was just using it as an example in response a comment I pasted below. Just at the point even in the same price bracket (open vs open) you can hear differences, let alone $300 vs $3000.

 

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Like I said, I would love to do a blind test of a couple dozen headphone types of the same ilk (closed vs closed, open vs open) and see just how much of a difference one can hear if one isn't told that this one cost $300 and this one cost $3000.[/quote]


Edited by Eternal Schism - 3/3/14 at 3:26am
post #1565 of 4029

Ah! Thank you and sorry again. Updated my post.

post #1566 of 4029

Accidentally got a friend of mine into headphone stuff..

He keeps asking me what the best headphone in the world is. (x

post #1567 of 4029
Tell him it's either Stax sr 009, sennheiser Orpheus or perhaps Sony R10.
post #1568 of 4029

Thanks, maybe he'll stop asking me now! :p

Damn, those headphones are expensive. And I thought the LCD-2's were costly!

post #1569 of 4029

You could always confuse the everloving **** out of him and tell him it's something you can get at Best Buy like the Sol Republic or UE6000's but "no one is willing to admit that because they're considered too mainstream". 

post #1570 of 4029

Oh, you're a mean one. (x

...

That's not a bad idea:evil: 

post #1571 of 4029
Showed headphones to my friends cousin :3

His face:
http://m.memegenerator.net/instance/45038403

I just accepted the fact that he wouldnt care about anything but the bass so i showed him rah! By dj pyro

Hawaii bad boy was right about the bass in that song o.o
post #1572 of 4029
I think I'm gonna have a noob reaction when I buy me something more than the Sennheiser HD201's. But they are a good start because I lived on some really crap headphones (but not iPhone earbud things at least, either in-ears or on-the-ear ones biggrin.gif )
Edited by alenfromcroatia - 3/3/14 at 1:54pm
post #1573 of 4029
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

You could always confuse the everloving **** out of him and tell him it's something you can get at Best Buy like the Sol Republic or UE6000's but "no one is willing to admit that because they're considered too mainstream". 

Just imagine the look on a Best Buy employee's face if you asked them where the Audeze LCD-2's are.

post #1574 of 4029
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

You could always confuse the everloving **** out of him and tell him it's something you can get at Best Buy like the Sol Republic or UE6000's but "no one is willing to admit that because they're considered too mainstream". 


There's a subset of people here on Head-Fi who think the Martin Logan Mikros 90 is God's gift to the world, so you could make that claim and have a base to back it up. Their thread expands by about ten pages a day; it's actually one of the most active corners of this community.

post #1575 of 4029
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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post
 


There's a subset of people here on Head-Fi who think the Martin Logan Mikros 90 is God's gift to the world, so you could make that claim and have a base to back it up. Their thread expands by about ten pages a day; it's actually one of the most active corners of this community.

 

I poked my head in there. Holy crap it's like the headphones hold them in their arms and rock them to sleep at night. 

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