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The Master 7
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Originally Posted by djobeat View Post
 

would the ifi's product like ipurifier/ gemini cable / iusbpower improve the ciunas?

 

btw what dac would be a step up above the ciunas? something with similar timbre but also more technical. because to my ears, ciunas is lacking in dynamic and separation/detail. timbre is awesome though


Yes, on the Ifi.  But if your usb cable run is extremely short it might not be necessary.

 

2nd question, without a doubt.  Chord Hugo, it will blow away the ciunas and you get a great headphone Amp.  See the Chord Hugo thread here on Hi-Fi.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/702787/chord-hugo


Edited by elviscaprice - 5/18/14 at 7:36pm
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^ not doubting the advice - likely true - but is it based on direct comparison of Ciunas and Chord Hugo? Is this in the thread you linked? Thanks beerchug.gif
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^ not doubting the advice - likely true - but is it based on direct comparison of Ciunas and Chord Hugo? Is this in the thread you linked? Thanks beerchug.gif
I own the Ciunas and used to own the QuteHD. The Chord was more dynamic and overall better technically. The Ciunas is a very very good DAC for the price. You will spend quite a bit more for a slight improvement. That's what this (cursed) hobby is all about anyway biggrin.gif
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^ Cursed indeed wink.gif
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The Ciunas comes close to what a good affordable DAC should be about. Unfortunately I found that it didn't sound "live" enough for my taste. On bad recordings that can be a good thing but on good recordings it leaves you scratching your head trying to figure out what's missing.

 

However, if I were to drop 2-5X that amount on a Master 7, Hugo or Young DSD, Oppo, etc I would expect a major improvement in the musicality dept. Not just ticking the more detail, smoother highs and deeper bass boxes.

 

Music is what it's about and, with a few exceptions, that's what separates the true high end from the rest.

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Originally Posted by Turn&cough View Post
 

The Ciunas comes close to what a good affordable DAC should be about. Unfortunately I found that it didn't sound "live" enough for my taste. On bad recordings that can be a good thing but on good recordings it leaves you scratching your head trying to figure out what's missing.

 

However, if I were to drop 2-5X that amount on a Master 7, Hugo or Young DSD, Oppo, etc I would expect a major improvement in the musicality dept. Not just ticking the more detail, smoother highs and deeper bass boxes.

 

Music is what it's about and, with a few exceptions, that's what separates the true high end from the rest.

Better musicality is what you would get from a Master 7 and Hugo (can't say for the others). The M7 needs a good upstream DDC, the Hugo has a very good USB implementation.

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I heard the Hugo and it does sounds good but The Hugo by no means blows the ciunas away.
A $8500 bricasti does not blow the cuinas away , even though it is the best or one of the best DACs out there regardless of price. U guys must be getting blinded by the looks of the more expensive DACs.
Edited by che15 - 5/20/14 at 3:33pm
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I heard the Hugo , and it sounds good. The Hugo by no means blows the ciunas away.
A $8500 bricasti does not blow the bricasti away , even though it is the best or one of the best DACs out there regardless of price. U guys must be getting blinded by the looks of the more expensive DACs.

Better hearing acuity?

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Or more transparent system and cables

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I heard the Hugo , and it sounds good. The Hugo by no means blows the ciunas away.
A $8500 bricasti does not blow the cuinas away , even though it is the best or one of the best DACs out there regardless of price. U guys must be getting blinded by the looks of the more expensive DACs.

Digital is doomed :confused_face(1):

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^ Or we are doomed, as well as "cursed" biggrin.gif

I haven't heard the Ciunas. Came very close to ordering but got the BMC PureDAC instead. Optical sounds good from my Mac and USB better, so I'm happy. Nevertheless, I remain interested in future products from JK.

Although I've heard clear (but subtle) differences between DACs under careful listening conditions I haven't heard one "blow away" another, contrary to what our capricious friend elvis apparently found! As for better and worse, these vary dependent on preferences and other gear. I've come to appreciate more and more advice by many members that synergy has a lot to do with it.
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It's important to avoid focusing on individual traits when comparing DACs which can lead you to ignore the musical experience as whole.

 

To make things more complicated - price, brand "prestige", build quality, etc can also influence the experience. 

 

I like to think I've gotten better at this game over time.

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So far I'm pretty impressed with the Ciunas DAC.  So much so I'm also thinking about the Ciunas Converter..  

 

Has there been any comparisons with the Ciunas Converter and others like the Alpha USB or the AP2 and converters like that...

 

Also, how does the Ciunas converter differ from the MK3 JKSPDIF converter?


Haven't been here for a long while, but just came across your question. The Ciunas converter's the best I've heard except for the OR5 maxed. But honestly they were more different rather than better/worse. The OR5 has a larger and more focused soundstage but with less layering in terms of depth. The Ciunas has a bit more bass and it's very slightly looser (the OR5 has that last 1% of definition). Being someone who will pay for even meager returns, I felt I could enjoy the Ciunas converter practically as much as the OR5 and for much less cost.

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Should mention that the Ciunas DAC is decent for the price, but the Ciunas-converter with the A-gd Ref 7.1 is easily in a different league. Very noticeable improvement.

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