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post #451 of 1934
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Originally Posted by Pritolus View Post

The Sonos device I'm talking about is the Sonos Connect. Info is found on Sonos.com.

I get what you're asing about, and the short answer is: no, you don't have to. Part of what separates the Asgard 2 from the original Asgard is the preamp. This means that you connect the Asgard 2 to your DAC, and your stereo to the Asgard 2 preamp output. This way music will play through your headphones when they're connected, and through your stereo when you disconnect them from the A2. Please note that the volume knob on the A2 will then affect the output to your stereo; controlling the volume. This might not be optimal if you're connecting it to a stereo preamp, as you then have two volume controls for the same signal. The best solution then would be to set the A2 to 60%-90% of max volume, and then just use the volume knob on your stereo to get the desired volume.

Another option is a DAC with both balanced and unbalanced outputs. That way you could connect the A2 to the unbalanced outputs, and the balanced to your stereo (if it has got balanced input). Depending on the DAC you should either get sound in both the A2 and stereo, or you choose between balanced/unbalanced via a switch on the DAC. The Sonos Connect has both Coax and optical digital outputs, so you can in theory use two DACs should you so desire. I very much doubt the Connect outputs only to coax OR optical.

The last option is of course to have the cables for both your A2 and stereo behind the DAC, and just insering the one you want at the time. As long as you manage to keep the unused cable in place behind your DAC (so it doesn't fall behind your rack or get pulled away when you move your other cables) this isn't really that impractial.

 

In any case you should make sure that the Sonos Connect is set to fixed volume, as you'll be controlling volume on the A2 or your stereo. The Sonos volume control would just degregade SQ and make your life harder.

Hope this helps!

Big, big help-Much apprec!

post #452 of 1934
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pritolus View Post

The Sonos device I'm talking about is the Sonos Connect. Info is found on Sonos.com.

I get what you're asing about, and the short answer is: no, you don't have to. Part of what separates the Asgard 2 from the original Asgard is the preamp. This means that you connect the Asgard 2 to your DAC, and your stereo to the Asgard 2 preamp output. This way music will play through your headphones when they're connected, and through your stereo when you disconnect them from the A2. Please note that the volume knob on the A2 will then affect the output to your stereo; controlling the volume. This might not be optimal if you're connecting it to a stereo preamp, as you then have two volume controls for the same signal. The best solution then would be to set the A2 to 60%-90% of max volume, and then just use the volume knob on your stereo to get the desired volume.

Another option is a DAC with both balanced and unbalanced outputs. That way you could connect the A2 to the unbalanced outputs, and the balanced to your stereo (if it has got balanced input). Depending on the DAC you should either get sound in both the A2 and stereo, or you choose between balanced/unbalanced via a switch on the DAC. The Sonos Connect has both Coax and optical digital outputs, so you can in theory use two DACs should you so desire. I very much doubt the Connect outputs only to coax OR optical.

The last option is of course to have the cables for both your A2 and stereo behind the DAC, and just insering the one you want at the time. As long as you manage to keep the unused cable in place behind your DAC (so it doesn't fall behind your rack or get pulled away when you move your other cables) this isn't really that impractial.

 

In any case you should make sure that the Sonos Connect is set to fixed volume, as you'll be controlling volume on the A2 or your stereo. The Sonos volume control would just degregade SQ and make your life harder.

Hope this helps!

Um, for the last option wouldn't a switch box be better so you are not constantly plugging and unplugging the cables, unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying?blink.gif

post #453 of 1934
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Originally Posted by scottder View Post

Woohoo, mine shipped (ordered on 4/22)!
 

So did mine!!! I ordered 4/30 haha ;]

post #454 of 1934

Got shipping confirmation!!

post #455 of 1934

Same here - just wish it was going to be here tomorrow instead of on Monday...

post #456 of 1934

Did you guys that are receiving the A2

 soon, order from Audio Advisor or direct?

post #457 of 1934

Direct for me...

post #458 of 1934
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post

Um, for the last option wouldn't a switch box be better so you are not constantly plugging and unplugging the cables, unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying?blink.gif

 

You didn't misunderstand. A switch box would be more practical, but you'd have to get a rather premium one. The less expensive switch boxes are in my experience rather terrible, quality-wise. Thin wires and a cheap switch will pretty much nullify the money you invested in the DAC...

post #459 of 1934

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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post

Big, big help-Much apprec!

 

 

 

There are a couple of other options too.  You could get a DAC with more than one set of outputs.

 

Or you could use Y-cables.  Despite that they may be a "bad" idea in theory, I use RCA Y-cables with my Bifrost / Asgard 2 / Yamaha receiver without any noticeable degradation to the sound.  Electrically speaking, your DAC would be driving a lower load impedance (essentially, the input impedance of your headphone amp and the input impedance of your receiver, in parallel), but input impedances on audio components are generally high enough that this should have little effect.

 

I'm sure there's some kind of argument to be made against Y-cables from a transmission line theory perspective, but in short cable runs at audio frequencies I wouldn't buy it.

 

If you're interested in pursuing this option, the ones I am using are from Blue Jeans Cable:

 

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/audio/MSA1.htm

post #460 of 1934
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Originally Posted by Sophonax View Post

 

 

 

There are a couple of other options too.  You could get a DAC with more than one set of outputs.

 

Or you could use Y-cables.  Despite that they may be a "bad" idea in theory, I use RCA Y-cables with my Bifrost / Asgard 2 / Yamaha receiver without any noticeable degradation to the sound.  Electrically speaking, your DAC would be driving a lower load impedance (essentially, the input impedance of your headphone amp and the input impedance of your receiver, in parallel), but input impedances on audio components are generally high enough that this should have little effect.

 

I'm sure there's some kind of argument to be made against Y-cables from a transmission line theory perspective, but in short cable runs at audio frequencies I wouldn't buy it.

 

If you're interested in pursuing this option, the ones I am using are from Blue Jeans Cable:

 

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/audio/MSA1.htm

That's great. I'm going to go to my first meet in a couple of weeks, look at some of these DACS and start getting down to brass tax. You all have given me several directions to look into!

post #461 of 1934
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Originally Posted by Pritolus View Post

 

You didn't misunderstand. A switch box would be more practical, but you'd have to get a rather premium one. The less expensive switch boxes are in my experience rather terrible, quality-wise. Thin wires and a cheap switch will pretty much nullify the money you invested in the DAC...

Not only poor quality, they add quite a bit of noise on the line on the ones I have tried.

post #462 of 1934

Okay, mine is finally tracking. Looks like next wednesday for me. biggrin.gif

post #463 of 1934
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Originally Posted by Sophonax View Post

 

 

 

There are a couple of other options too.  You could get a DAC with more than one set of outputs.

 

Or you could use Y-cables.  Despite that they may be a "bad" idea in theory, I use RCA Y-cables with my Bifrost / Asgard 2 / Yamaha receiver without any noticeable degradation to the sound.  Electrically speaking, your DAC would be driving a lower load impedance (essentially, the input impedance of your headphone amp and the input impedance of your receiver, in parallel), but input impedances on audio components are generally high enough that this should have little effect.

 

I'm sure there's some kind of argument to be made against Y-cables from a transmission line theory perspective, but in short cable runs at audio frequencies I wouldn't buy it.

 

If you're interested in pursuing this option, the ones I am using are from Blue Jeans Cable:

 

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/audio/MSA1.htm

 

Y-cables are an option. As the amps are in parallel (like you said) the voltage over them is equal, and as such the signal strength (volume) should not be affected. Lowered impedance caused by the parallel coupling will increase the current drawn from the DAC, which is not good. But as you said, the reduction in impedance should be so small that it becomes a non-issue. I would also assume that the impedance is higher when the amplifier is off, though I have no backing for this.

post #464 of 1934

I feel ya. I just opted for pickup and had the order held so I can go to a local Fedex shop and grab it. I live in San Diego too so you should consider it figuring theres a lot of them around town

post #465 of 1934

So I guess impressions will start rolling in soon. popcorn.gif please include comparisons to the Lyr for those who have heard or own both.

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