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post #1756 of 1952
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Originally Posted by Namtar View Post
 

Kind of a quick question here.  Is anyone running a tube preamp to the Asgard 2 and would it make any sense to do so?  Just curiosity as I'm unsure about using a Valhalla 2 as a preamp.  If I do get it, I'll be preamping to my Audiosource Amp 100 and my pair of ARX A2rx-c speakers.  I've never heard the so called tube sound before but I've also not heard anything bad about it.  I'm certain something I listen to would be benefited from it.

I've got the Bifrost Uber + Magni at the moment and I'm considering the A2.  I'm also considering the Valhalla 2 to delve into my first tube amp.  My headphones are only HD 598s so upgrading the amp isn't really necessary, but I occasionally want to use IEMs and I could really use the low gain setting.  Until I get the funds for a HD 650 or more ideally a HD 700 I'm just toying around with the idea of a better amp now to power whatever I feel like playing with later and giving me a little more flexability in my choice of ear-wear.

 

So far I'm about 80% sure of getting the A2 but before I sneak some funds to have an equal sized stack I want to have my homework done.  As the other heads up my main listening is to video games (Diablo 3 & World of Warcraft - I already love the soundstage in Diablo 3.  It is greatly improved with the Uber over my onboard.  No I don't use the 3d effects for headphone or gaming functions from software or a sound card.) and after that I do a lot of rock, metal, rap, and classical.  I also enjoy youtube videos of guitarists, drummers, street artists, and singers.  It's a wide range of things.

 

Interesting to hear that the HD700 is on your list as it seems to be one of those headphones with an odd sound signature according to many around these parts. I certainly haven't heard them yet, but I will soon as my local audio store plans to have a floor model available. I am curious for sure about them. Have you had a chance to hear the 700 yet?

post #1757 of 1952

I've not had the chance to hear it yet, and to be very honest, it's going to be awhile until I get the funds to spend on a set of high end headphones.  I'll certainly find somewhere local to demo them though before I make a purchase, unless I get them for just stupid cheap somehow.  They're on my list since everything I've read leads me to believe they're of the same physical design style as the 598's are.  The 598 is the most comfortable headphone I've ever worn so I wish to continue with something like it. 

post #1758 of 1952
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Originally Posted by Namtar View Post
 

I've not had the chance to hear it yet, and to be very honest, it's going to be awhile until I get the funds to spend on a set of high end headphones.  I'll certainly find somewhere local to demo them though before I make a purchase, unless I get them for just stupid cheap somehow.  They're on my list since everything I've read leads me to believe they're of the same physical design style as the 598's are.  The 598 is the most comfortable headphone I've ever worn so I wish to continue with something like it. 

You should check out the SRH1840s, SRH1540s, TH600s, or TH900s then.  That's not to say the HD598s aren't comfortable but the above are much more comfortable IMO.

post #1759 of 1952

Not to totally take this thread off topic but in my opinion the Beyerdynamic DT 990s (or other similar velour models are way more comfortable than the Sennheisers, I have the HD 558 and I'm assuming the 598s are slightly more comfortable, but they have the same awkward oval shape which I find uncomfortable. 

post #1760 of 1952
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Originally Posted by Namtar View Post
 

I've not had the chance to hear it yet, and to be very honest, it's going to be awhile until I get the funds to spend on a set of high end headphones.  I'll certainly find somewhere local to demo them though before I make a purchase, unless I get them for just stupid cheap somehow.  They're on my list since everything I've read leads me to believe they're of the same physical design style as the 598's are.  The 598 is the most comfortable headphone I've ever worn so I wish to continue with something like it. 

If you like the 598's you should give the HD600's a listen to. After listening many times I found the treble of the HD700's to be strident, although the rest of it's sound was good, I decided against it.

post #1761 of 1952

I've still several types of cans to try out.  I'm wondering if anyone here is using a tube preamp into the Asgard 2 (I'm hoping someone here has both the Valhalla 2 and the Asgard 2 and is either doing that, or is willing to try it for a few song listens and can tell if there's a difference.  I'm planning on getting them both at some point, and if the Valhalla 2 sounds "good" I'll likely use it as a preamp into my speaker setup if not as my primary headphone amp.  I've heard the Asgard 2 is "faster" and since I do enjoy rock/metal when I choose to listen to music I'm considering getting both amps regardless - I'm just not sure if using a tube amp as the preamp into the A2 would be benficial or if that would "slow it down" making the whole idea pointless. (wierd thought process, but I'm still new to the headphone listening thing.  I've primarily always just had bookshelf speakers, but since the wifes computer is 5 feet behind me I don't want to disturb her with loud listening.  So I've started using the headphones a LOT more.  Ever since I got my dedicated external setup my 598's have just come alive and I LOVE it.  So the addiction has started)

post #1762 of 1952
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post
 

First song has to be Led Zeppelin...


I always warm up the system with Kansas Masque.  Don't know why, maybe I'm programmed...

post #1763 of 1952
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Originally Posted by Old Groucho View Post
 

The Royal Scam & Aja by Steely Dan.  There aren't too many better sounding/recorded albums out there.


+1

:beerchug:

post #1764 of 1952
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Originally Posted by KLJTech View Post
 

That's a couple very nice choices, I'd add Arne Domnerus - Jazz At The Pawnshop. If you like Jazz its a great album and they did a terrific job recording it. Good luck!


Thanks for the tip.  Always like to learn about new music.

Have you tried Allen Tousaint's "Going Places?"  It's bright and fun music.

 

Cheers,

RCBinTN

post #1765 of 1952
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Originally Posted by madwolfa View Post
 

I'm somewhat tempted to try Audeze LCD-X with my Asgard 2, but I have two things scaring me off:

 

1) Weight.

2) Price.

That's my rig along with a Bifrost Uber DAC.  You will not be disappointed, although the wallet will be lighter.  Still, I think that will become your go-to choice.

post #1766 of 1952
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Originally Posted by Namtar View Post

I've still several types of cans to try out.  I'm wondering if anyone here is using a tube preamp into the Asgard 2 (I'm hoping someone here has both the Valhalla 2 and the Asgard 2 and is either doing that, or is willing to try it for a few song listens and can tell if there's a difference.  I'm planning on getting them both at some point, and if the Valhalla 2 sounds "good" I'll likely use it as a preamp into my speaker setup if not as my primary headphone amp.  I've heard the Asgard 2 is "faster" and since I do enjoy rock/metal when I choose to listen to music I'm considering getting both amps regardless - I'm just not sure if using a tube amp as the preamp into the A2 would be benficial or if that would "slow it down" making the whole idea pointless. (wierd thought process, but I'm still new to the headphone listening thing.  I've primarily always just had bookshelf speakers, but since the wifes computer is 5 feet behind me I don't want to disturb her with loud listening.  So I've started using the headphones a LOT more.  Ever since I got my dedicated external setup my 598's have just come alive and I LOVE it.  So the addiction has started)

Doubling up on headphone amps just adds complexity, volume controls, etc. The KISS method certainly applies to hi -fi. Instead of a $250 amp plus a $350 amp, get a better $600 amp with pre outs for your speaker system. If you want Schiit, get a Lyr for $450.

By the way, Valhallas are definitely not "slow".

My apologies if you have some special need for 2 amps that I didn't catch.
post #1767 of 1952

No, I don't have any particular need for 2 amps at all, I'm just playing with ideas and finding ways to spend money I have not yet earned (Yup, welcome to Head-Fi). 

post #1768 of 1952
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Originally Posted by Namtar View Post
 

No, I don't have any particular need for 2 amps at all, I'm just playing with ideas and finding ways to spend money I have not yet earned (Yup, welcome to Head-Fi). 

You could "Y" cable the Bifrost to both amps that you already own. The Bifrost has a 75 Ohm output impedance and should have no problems driving both amps in parallel.

Depending on your headphones, I might consider putting more money into headphones, that's where you'll hear the biggest differences.. Which ones do you have?

post #1769 of 1952

I'm running HD 598 at the moment.  They are utterly amazing through the headphone amp compared to the Sound Blaster Zx I did have them running through.  Next step is going to be HD 650 I think - after i get my car fixed up though.  Exhaust went bad on a trip out of town the other day so real life comes first. 

My other idea right now is getting a Vinyl Flat Can Opener and just hooking that up to the B zone of my AudioSource Amp 100 and moving my Magni to downstairs or beside the bed.  It would be less expensvie than the A2 at least.  Quality wise I'm not sure but I do like the way my ARX speakers sound so I'm sure the authority would be similar through the headphones.  I'm looking for a bit more Bass admittedly :-p

post #1770 of 1952
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Originally Posted by RCBinTN View Post
 


Thanks for the tip.  Always like to learn about new music.

Have you tried Allen Tousaint's "Going Places?"  It's bright and fun music.

 

Cheers,

RCBinTN

 

No I haven't, but I just placed the order with Amazon for the "Allen Toussaint Going Places" CD so I'll have it soon (gotta love Prime). Thanks for the recommendation!

 

I've been spending a lot of time lately with the Asgard 2, the B&W P7's and my new Gungnir and it makes for a sweet combination. I want to check out the new Valhalla 2 as well, but there are only so many hours in a day...

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