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post #1696 of 1962
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 

Ugh! I'd just like to know if I'm wasting the A-2 and may as well listen straight thru the amp. Funny, if I connect the A-2 to my CDP vs the amp, the sound is somewhat different (of course-two different components), but I'd be hard pressed to say which is better.

 

I think the way you're connecting it, it might be better from your integrated headphone jack, indeed. Rotels making decent headphone outputs, btw. 

I'm having a Rotel combo myself.

post #1697 of 1962
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Originally Posted by madwolfa View Post
 

 

I think the way you're connecting it, it might be better from your integrated headphone jack, indeed. Rotels making decent headphone outputs, btw. 

I'm having a Rotel combo myself.


Cool-hope you like the Rotel. It's been good with my little system. The DAC/amp combo seemed perfect for people like me. I've incorporated Sonos wireless speakers in my house including my dedicated stereo. I figured-I could access all of my digitized music from a hard drive NAS, utilize the DAC in the integrated amp and with a remote, easily move from my digitized music or streaming sources to my CD's without switching cables, etc. Super convenient.

 

 

But, now I think it's messing up my chain when listening to HPs.  I decided to run a little test tonight connecting my A-2 to the three different sources:

 

1. directly to the CDP and removing the integrated amp from the picture (but losing the ability to access my digital files)

2. to the integrated amp

3. to the integrated amp headphone jack

 

I spent a good bit of time tonight listening to a variety of music: rock, jazz, classical, electronic, metal.

 

Findings:

 

*It seems to sound best directly to the CDP removing the integrated from the picture. But, it's inconvenient when I want to quickly move from digitized music to CDs. I have my stereo in my computer room. Sometimes, I just want to spend a few minutes on the computer and not fool with physical media. Boom-I can just easy listen to a playlist through my speakers or HP's via SONOS, then switch to a CD very easily.

 This was a surprise because I had always assumed the DAC in the lower end CDP would result in inferior sound.

 

*There is very little difference between the integrated HP jack and listening thru my A-2 connected to the integrated amp which is frustrating. I'm beginning to think I'm mostly hearing the Rotel not the A-2 when listening to the A-2 connected thru the integrated.

 

Maybe an external, dedicated DAC would have better for HP listening than the amp/DAC combo.

 

Thanks for all of your input.

post #1698 of 1962
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post
 

Maybe an external, dedicated DAC would have better for HP listening than the amp/DAC combo.

 

Absolutely. Also many budget CD players have surprisingly decent DAC section in them.

 

10 years ago I was starting this hobby with $300 Teac C1D player, which had an oversampling 1-bit DAC and I've plugged my Sennheiser HD600 right into its headphone jack and it sounded crazy good! I still remember it.


Edited by madwolfa - 6/12/14 at 6:34pm
post #1699 of 1962

You could always go for Modi USB and Modi optical for $200.

post #1700 of 1962
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Originally Posted by Tuco1965 View Post
 

You could always go for Modi USB and Modi optical for $200.


There's an idea. I guess the rhetorical question would be how much of an upgrade would it be from the little Wolfson DAC that's in my $200 CDP? No way to know.

 

I'm just starting to do a little research. 

 

I might  spring for a new CD player and be done with it,

 

or

 

get a Modi, Bifrost or other Schiit and see how it affects the CDP sound. Pound for pound the Bifrost seems to be one of the better bang for bucks.

 

 I'm  even toying with saving up a bit and replacing my CDP with a CD transport and external DAC for something more endgamish...but that will be a while. The Music Fidelity M series looks good. An audio store I frequent has their M1CD transport and M1DAC. I've heard that combo with Monitor Audio speakers and a Music fidelity amp which sounded quite good. We're talking a year out maybe.

 

http://www.musicalfidelity.com/products/m1series/

 

But, something I can live with for a while.....

 

I'm not opposed to wait until the time is right. My strategy has always been have something medium fi you can live with and then keep options open.

 

Good thing, is I've got a serviceable system to listen while the journey continues.

post #1701 of 1962
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Originally Posted by markm1 View Post


I'm not opposed to wait until the time is right. My strategy has always been have something medium fi you can live with and then keep options open.

Good thing, is I've got a serviceable system to listen while the journey continues.

That is a great philosophy to live by.

If you were curious about how the bifrost would work with your system, Schiit does have the 15-day return policy for your own curiosity. I have a Modi and Asgard 2 on the way right now, and I know it will sound phenomenal. The possibility of the bifrost's beauty may lead me to do the same for comparison's sake!
post #1702 of 1962
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Originally Posted by fluffygdog95 View Post


That is a great philosophy to live by.

If you were curious about how the bifrost would work with your system, Schiit does have the 15-day return policy for your own curiosity. I have a Modi and Asgard 2 on the way right now, and I know it will sound phenomenal. The possibility of the bifrost's beauty may lead me to do the same for comparison's sake!

Once try it's hard to say goodbye. Before you know it, it's day 16.

post #1703 of 1962
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Originally Posted by fluffygdog95 View Post


That is a great philosophy to live by.

If you were curious about how the bifrost would work with your system, Schiit does have the 15-day return policy for your own curiosity. I have a Modi and Asgard 2 on the way right now, and I know it will sound phenomenal. The possibility of the bifrost's beauty may lead me to do the same for comparison's sake!


Good point!

post #1704 of 1962
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

Once try it's hard to say goodbye. Before you know it, it's day 16.

That's the part I'm worried about! I haven't even received the Asgard 2 and Modi and I'm thinking about the Bifrost. 0_0 I just know deep down that the Asgard longs for it's fellow aluminum brethren, rather than the steel plebian Modi!
post #1705 of 1962
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Originally Posted by fluffygdog95 View Post


That's the part I'm worried about! I haven't even received the Asgard 2 and Modi and I'm thinking about the Bifrost. 0_0 I just know deep down that the Asgard longs for it's fellow aluminum brethren, rather than the steel plebian Modi!

I can see that your wallet has already beaten the daylights out of you. I have a fully loaded Bifrost and can't imagine the need for anything else as far as DACs go.

post #1706 of 1962
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

I can see that your wallet has already beaten the daylights out of you. I have a fully loaded Bifrost and can't imagine the need for anything else as far as DACs go.
I totally agree!
post #1707 of 1962
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Originally Posted by fluffygdog95 View Post


That's the part I'm worried about! I haven't even received the Asgard 2 and Modi and I'm thinking about the Bifrost. 0_0 I just know deep down that the Asgard longs for it's fellow aluminum brethren, rather than the steel plebian Modi!


Don't feel bad, I have two Modi (one optical, one usb) and a Uber Bifrsot, a Lyr and I have an order in for a Valhalla 2. It is some form of subliminal advertising I think.

post #1708 of 1962
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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post


Don't feel bad, I have two Modi (one optical, one usb) and a Uber Bifrsot, a Lyr and I have an order in for a Valhalla 2. It is some form of subliminal advertising I think.

That sounds like the best set of audiophile legos you shall have! So many possibilities for connections. 0_0 The wallet cowers in fear, ever wondering when master will call upon him again!
post #1709 of 1962
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Originally Posted by fluffygdog95 View Post


That sounds like the best set of audiophile legos you shall have! So many possibilities for connections. 0_0 The wallet cowers in fear, ever wondering when master will call upon him again!

C'mon we're talk'in Schiit here.

post #1710 of 1962
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

C'mon we're talk'in Schiit here.

My apologies! That sounds like the Schiitiest set of audiophile logos? biggrin.gif

HPiper, do you have all of your Schitty DACs connected to the Lyr, or do they feed individual rigs?

I'm going crazy waiting for my Asgard 2 and Modi USB. It has been well over a year since owning any amplifier or DAC, and longer than I can remember for owning desktop versions! Any advice for bracing against the wonder? Or any music material recommended to be the first song through? HD600 is my weapon of choice.
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