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post #1591 of 1945
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Originally Posted by terance View Post
 


Ditto! That's one of the reasons that I've got an Asgard as well.

 

I'd buy a Valhalla with a gain switch in an instant though!

My new Audio Advisor that arrived today has a Schiit Audio Valhalla v2 in it saying that it now has a Gain switch AND Preamp outs! I don't see it on Schiit Audio's website, but it is in the new Audio Advisor on page 18. I wonder if its a misprint or they just got the jump on that model...odd that it wouldn't be on Schiit Audio's website.

post #1592 of 1945
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Originally Posted by KLJTech View Post

My new Audio Advisor that arrived today has a Schiit Audio Valhalla v2 in it saying that it now has a Gain switch AND Preamp outs! I don't see it on Schiit Audio's website, but it is in the new Audio Advisor on page 18. I wonder if its a misprint or they just got the jump on that model...odd that it wouldn't be on Schiit Audio's website.

That's so juicy!

Looks like I'll buy a used Valhalla at a discount then =)

Come on sale forums!
post #1593 of 1945
Thanks for you review of the a2 and the different headphones it could drive. The A2 seems to be a versatile work horse, that seems to be a possible alternative to a lyr.
post #1594 of 1945
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Originally Posted by Defiant00 View Post

Always interesting to see how opinions differ when they're polite and well-written smily_headphones1.gif

Agreed, that's one of the few reviews I've read where someone didn't like the Asgard 2 and I didn't think they were insane hehe

post #1595 of 1945
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Originally Posted by Byrnie View Post
 

Agreed, that's one of the few reviews I've read where someone didn't like the Asgard 2 and I didn't think they were insane hehe

The only negative thing I've read is that some people don't like them with Grado HP's becuase Grados tend to be brigher and some folks feel a tube or tube hybrid to compensate for their brighter sound signature. That said, I've got a pair of Grados that I listen with my A-2 and I'm happy witht the sound-it's all I know!

post #1596 of 1945

Upon further listening, I am pleased to say that I will be keeping my Asgard 2. On well-recorded songs, it makes the soundstage even better, which really makes the music sound more lively. It's sort of annoying how only like 40% of CDs released today are "well-recorded". It amazes me how flexible this amp is, with the gain switch and all, while still being so well built. I think it's a bargain with the five-year warranty and build quality. Even if it's only $249 of amp (I don't have much experience with other amps so I can't give my opinion on this), it's so well built that it'll last a very long time, which easily justifies the asking price.

 

I also observed that it is really useless to use it with lower quality headphones like the Sennheiser HD 558s and Beyerdynamic Custom One Pros. The Custom One Pros sound better directly hooked up to my computer, to be honest. But when I use it with my DAC and DT 990s it clearly helps. The built in amp on my DAC is more than powerful enough, but as I stated before the soundstage is narrower and it just is slightly less detailed. Just my two cents, although I'd take them with a grain of salt considering this is my first dedicated headphone amplifier.

post #1597 of 1945
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It's sort of annoying how only like 40% of CDs released today are "well-recorded". 

 

That's a very generous estimate!! I'd say it's more like 10%, if not less... Rest is overprocessed, overcompressed, harsh, noisy garbage.

I have to use vinyl rips of my favorite artists lately... Much better mastered, dynamic range, etc. Wish they'd do the same with CDs. :(

 

Glad you like your Asgard 2, I love mine too! By the way, which gain setting do you use? I don't need more than 'low' with my HD-600s.

My volume pot is around 11-12 am with most music.


Edited by madwolfa - 5/24/14 at 5:44am
post #1598 of 1945

I have to use high-gain with my DT 990s, and the volume pot is at 12-4 o'clock depending on the source.

post #1599 of 1945
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I have to use high-gain with my DT 990s, and the volume pot is at 12-4 o'clock depending on the source.

 

Either your source voltage is too low or you're frying your ears.  On my A2 with DT990 600 ohms, I run it no more than 10:00. 

post #1600 of 1945
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post
 

I have to use high-gain with my DT 990s, and the volume pot is at 12-4 o'clock depending on the source.

 

Wow, on high gain I can't go much higher than 9 am on my HD-600s. My ears are pretty sensitive, though.

post #1601 of 1945

I was working LATE really last night and was tired of wearing headphones so I put in my Westone W40's and plugged them into the A2 on low gain. I was listening to two new albums I had downloaded from B&W's Society of Sound (FLAC 24/48) and it sounded so amazing that it kept distracting me from work. I finally said to Hell with it and leaned back in my chair and put my feet up on my desk and just listened for a half hour or so. Its nice to know that the Westone's are capable of sounding much better than I thought they were. 

 

I LOVE my Lyr, but the Asgard 2 works better for me when I'm using my easier to drive headphones like the B&W P7's or most of my IEM's. The A2 is a wonderful amp and a sweet preamp at a great price. Now if you feed it so-so source material you'll not be that impressed with what it gives you, but with a good DAC and well recorded music its almost impossible to beat anywhere near its price in my opinion. Plus, it runs warm to hot like a real "Class A" design is supposed to.

post #1602 of 1945

I think it's likely that my source is too quiet, although I have no clue how to fix it. Last night I was using a Yamaha CD player that has an adjustable output, and I had it set to the lowest, hence the Asgard picking up the slack and being almost to the max. I experimented with different settings on each and found the Asgard was the best even on full. Don't worry, I wasn't frying my ears. With my DAC hooked up to my computer it's much lower, but my DAC doesn't have adjustable line outs. 

 

Do class As sound better than ABs? The Asgard generates much more heat, so is that heat serving a purpose or is it just "for show"? 

 

It's good to hear that the Asgard works well with high quality IEMs. As before, I am amazed how well it works with my DT 990s but it actually sounds a little worse than the built in output with my HD 558s and Custom One Pros, but that isn't a concern since those don't really need an amplifier.

post #1603 of 1945
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post
 

 

Do class As sound better than ABs? The Asgard generates much more heat, so is that heat serving a purpose or is it just "for show"? 

 

 

 

The answer has more to do with the design of the circuit than mere monikers.  I've heard class A amps that were complete rubbish and AB amps that were sonic bliss.

 

But, to get to the spirit of your question, many listeners think class A has more potential to sound better because they are supposedly a little warmer, smooth, and sweet sounding.

post #1604 of 1945

Class A amps should theoretically sound the best of all because of no crossover distortion (transistors are always on, hence the heat).

Class AB is mere compromise to make the amp more efficient (less hot). There is much more to a good amp than just a topology, though.


Edited by madwolfa - 5/24/14 at 6:41pm
post #1605 of 1945
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Originally Posted by hodgjy View Post
 

 

The answer has more to do with the design of the circuit than mere monikers.  I've heard class A amps that were complete rubbish and AB amps that were sonic bliss.

 

But, to get to the spirit of your question, many listeners think class A has more potential to sound better because they are supposedly a little warmer, smooth, and sweet sounding.

 

The only full Class A amps I've heard in my system were headphone amps...Class A speaker amps are like space heaters, are usually very heavy and very expensive. Both of my speaker amps are from Parasound, the A21 and A23 and they're both high bias Class A/AB designs. The first X amount of watts are Class A and then they slide into AB. There's no doubt at all that a Class AB amp can sound great...it comes down to design, parts quality and execution. 

 

I only meant that so many amps are called "Class A" yet they're cool/slightly warm to the touch. I've been at this since the mid 80's and Class A has always meant "to me" that the amp will run very warm to hot. I don't care if my amps are powered by hamsters running on a belt as long as they sound good to me. The Asgard 2 sounds very nice to me...without the use of hamsters. (to the best of my knowledge)

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