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post #1081 of 2489
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

 

I'd say a bit more than a little. :D

 

 

Nah only a little.  :)

 

We're talking amp differences here not headphone differences.

post #1082 of 2489
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

I had a bit of love / hate with the Magni amp.  It had a nice amount of power for the lil' beast.  When it comes to needing a somewhat portable amp that doesn't stand out as much, that is the real deal.  Given the price, I think there's probably little to complain about, but I did notice a few small items.  The "bleed" from the front panel LED through the cut-out for the volume knob was a bit discerning.  I figure I could have easily resolved it by applying some felt inside the case between the volume pot and the knob to control this a bit.  I didn't really have it long enough to do any real extensive testing other than put it through some minimal testing with my HD-600s and the HE-400s.  But, when one can get an Asgard I in the used market for about $150, and usually includes shipping, it might be best to opt for that route.

 

After winning an auction several days back for an Asgard 2, it finally arrived today after a 9-day journey across the U.S.  I realize there was a lot of bad weather across the U.S., but the shipping information indicated 12/4/2013 as the approximate delivery date.  But, she finally made it - to a bit of disappointment on my end.  The seller indicated there wasn't any real noticeable hum from what they could hear.   But, when I was 3+ feet across from where the amp was sitting, she was humming right along.  The 2nd area of concern was the way the item was packed, and shipped using a large USPS Priority Mail box that looked like it made 3+ journeys across the U.S.  It had a been a recycled box, but the Asgard should have had something a bit better.  However, due to the hum issue, it's going back.  I'll have to bit about $20 in shipping / insurance costs to get it back to the seller, but that could still be better than living with a lemon that could be more problematic down the road.

 

I created a little collection of pictures in my gallery on "how not to ship a $200 amp": http://www.head-fi.org/g/a/831253/how-not-to-ship-a-200-amplifier/

That's such a bummer man. I bought my Asgard 2 in May of 2013 right after the alleged "defective" units. Some of these units had that transformer hum you're mentioning. Mine is dead silent and has been performing nicely.

post #1083 of 2489
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Originally Posted by wahsmoh View Post
 

That's such a bummer man. I bought my Asgard 2 in May of 2013 right after the alleged "defective" units. Some of these units had that transformer hum you're mentioning. Mine is dead silent and has been performing nicely.

 

Yes, that's really what I was hoping for.  To ice the cake a bit, the one I had purchased was the very unique one - as the case had been anodized in black, so it looked pretty sharp.  This was done by the individual.

 

 However, I see on the Schiit site that they offer an limited run of Valhalla amps in the anodized black color.  But there's no mention of the others that might appear in black at some future point.  Not sure if anything has been said by Schiit if they'll offer this in the other models, or not.  But, I seriously  wouldn't get too hung up on the colors.  The regular silver / off-silver that is the de facto Schiitt standard is still very, very impressive.  After all, we buy these amps to listen to them moreso than to look at them.  Or, maybe I have that backwards?  :p

post #1084 of 2489
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 

 

I had a bit of love / hate with the Magni amp.  It had a nice amount of power for the lil' beast.  When it comes to needing a somewhat portable amp that doesn't stand out as much, that is the real deal.  Given the price, I think there's probably little to complain about, but I did notice a few small items.  The "bleed" from the front panel LED through the cut-out for the volume knob was a bit discerning.  I figure I could have easily resolved it by applying some felt inside the case between the volume pot and the knob to control this a bit.  I didn't really have it long enough to do any real extensive testing other than put it through some minimal testing with my HD-600s and the HE-400s.  But, when one can get an Asgard I in the used market for about $150, and usually includes shipping, it might be best to opt for that route.

 

After winning an auction several days back for an Asgard 2, it finally arrived today after a 9-day journey across the U.S.  I realize there was a lot of bad weather across the U.S., but the shipping information indicated 12/4/2013 as the approximate delivery date.  But, she finally made it - to a bit of disappointment on my end.  The seller indicated there wasn't any real noticeable hum from what they could hear.   But, when I was 3+ feet across from where the amp was sitting, she was humming right along.  The 2nd area of concern was the way the item was packed, and shipped using a large USPS Priority Mail box that looked like it made 3+ journeys across the U.S.  It had a been a recycled box, but the Asgard should have had something a bit better.  However, due to the hum issue, it's going back.  I'll have to bit about $20 in shipping / insurance costs to get it back to the seller, but that could still be better than living with a lemon that could be more problematic down the road.

 

I created a little collection of pictures in my gallery on "how not to ship a $200 amp": http://www.head-fi.org/g/a/831253/how-not-to-ship-a-200-amplifier/

 

Wayne,

 

sorry to hear of your trouble. I've had boxes come in usps that looked just that bad and a few worse. Some contained damaged items and some not. It all comes down to how the item is packaged inside. With a large flat rate box you could have easily double boxed the A2  or at least just used a bunch of bubble wrap and it would have likely been fine. The Styrofoam pillars that Schiit uses are by far the best...there is a reason they use them.

 

Regarding the hum...there was an issue with the early release A2 units that exhibited the hum, I had one of them and returned it. I have had no reports of the hum going away. 

 

I have had two used Schiit amps used that had issues. Despite not being the original owner, when I emailed Schiit about the problem they offered to fix it if I paid shipping.  

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Edited by wje - 12/11/13 at 10:25pm
post #1086 of 2489

@Wje, no offense but take a chill pill  I'm sorry if you feel I misrepresented the amp but I honestly never noticed the hum myself.  I've never been accused of being a liar and I have a very long history on eBay with a virtually pristine reputation.  I've already offered you a full refund so I don't see what all the fuss is about.  In any case, as an Engineer in Silicon Valley having gone through one IPO and on the verge of another, it's not like I'm hurting for money or anything.  In any case, I wish you all the best.  Peace out.

post #1087 of 2489
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Originally Posted by blasjw View Post
 

@Wje, no offense but take a chill pill  I'm sorry if you feel I misrepresented the amp but I honestly never noticed the hum myself.  I've never been accused of being a liar and I have a very long history on eBay with a virtually pristine reputation.  I've already offered you a full refund so I don't see what all the fuss is about.  In any case, as an Engineer in Silicon Valley having gone through one IPO and on the verge of another, it's not like I'm hurting for money or anything.  In any case, I wish you all the best.  Peace out.

 

I'm chilled.  Just wondering why my money is being held up at this stage.

post #1088 of 2489
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Originally Posted by wje View Post

I'm chilled.  Just wondering why my money is being held up at this stage.

Here's ebay policy:

"After confirming that the item was returned to the seller, we refund the full cost of the item and original shipping to the buyer's PayPal account. The seller reimburses us for the amount."

I'm guessing it's tied to the shipping tracking, the same way new sellers don't get their funds released until it's delivered and positve feedback is left.
post #1089 of 2489
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Originally Posted by Radioking59 View Post


Here's ebay policy:

"After confirming that the item was returned to the seller, we refund the full cost of the item and original shipping to the buyer's PayPal account. The seller reimburses us for the amount."

I'm guessing it's tied to the shipping tracking, the same way new sellers don't get their funds released until it's delivered and positve feedback is left.

 

No worries, I had a chance to follow up on your case and was able to check the tracking number.  So, I went ahead and refunded the full amount of the item + shipping.  Let me know the return shipping cost and I will refund that as well.  We cool?

post #1090 of 2489
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Originally Posted by Radioking59 View Post


Here's ebay policy:

"After confirming that the item was returned to the seller, we refund the full cost of the item and original shipping to the buyer's PayPal account. The seller reimburses us for the amount."

I'm guessing it's tied to the shipping tracking, the same way new sellers don't get their funds released until it's delivered and positve feedback is left.

 

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by blasjw View Post
 

 

No worries, I had a chance to follow up on your case and was able to check the tracking number.  So, I went ahead and refunded the full amount of the item + shipping.  Let me know the return shipping cost and I will refund that as well.  We cool?

 

Yes.  Thank you.  

 

Now, back to talking Schiit ... or specifically the Asgard 2.

post #1091 of 2489

I'm thinking of eventually buying the Asgard 2. This is the first negative review of it I have come across. I find it a little suspicious how he is saying it sucks compared to the amplifier of a company that sponsors their website. Can someone who owns the amplifier tell me if any of the criticisms he has of the sound are valid? I'd really appreciate it.

 

http://www.headfonia.com/the-original-budget-desktop-amp-gets-an-update-schiit-asgard-2/

post #1092 of 2489
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Originally Posted by jeremy205100 View Post
 

I'm thinking of eventually buying the Asgard 2. This is the first negative review of it I have come across. I find it a little suspicious how he is saying it sucks compared to the amplifier of a company that sponsors their website. Can someone who owns the amplifier tell me if any of the criticisms he has of the sound are valid? I'd really appreciate it.

 

http://www.headfonia.com/the-original-budget-desktop-amp-gets-an-update-schiit-asgard-2/

 

I don't see where he said it "sucks" and that doesn't come across as a negative review IMO. For example, see the quotes here:

 

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I really wanted to love this amp, and in truth, it isn’t bad.  It sounded perfectly fine with most of the headphones I have on tap.  The problem is that, after what I have heard in the last few months, good enough just isn’t good enough anymore.  The Asgard 2 is good enough, but there is better.

 

Strangely enough when I heard it it sounded exactly how he described it earlier in the review. Sounds like it'd be perfect for a DT-880 or T90.

 

I also had an Asgard 1 for about a year, but never got a chance to A/B compare them. Unfortunately I couldn't get my A2 working properly in my apartment. Must be weird interference of some sort.

post #1093 of 2489

That's the first review of read of it that didn't say it was awesome and amazing. Starting a review with "I wanted to love the Asgard 2" means he didn't like it. It just sounds weird to me that he claims a portable amp is better. I don't own the Asgard 2 yet so I don't know if he's right or not.

post #1094 of 2489
The most useless thing to me is if a reviewer or thread poster "doesn't like" the sound of a product. Likewise if they say it's the most incredible thing they've heard.

Other than pointing out shabby construction or product failures, I'm wanting to read literate and well written descriptions of the nature and sonic personality of the component, including how it interacts with other equipment. That can give me a ballpark idea whether it might/might not be a good fit in my system and with my preferences.

Icing on the cake is a goodhearted sense of humor about the whole thing.
post #1095 of 2489

The thing that irks me about some reviewers is that they are sponsored by a particular brand which means they are going to be biased to that brand. This is what bothered me about that review I linked to. The person starts it off by saying they were forced to test it with an amplifier from one of their sponsors and that they are probably going to say that one's better. I basically read that as "Take this review with a grain of salt".

 

When you're reviewing ANYTHING, audio or not, being impartial is crucial. I'd argue it's even more important for audio equipment because sometimes the differences can be so minute that mental biases due to something like a sponsorship could deride the whole review even if they don't intend for it to.  

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