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Hello, I recently bought this headphones and also an FiiO E07K DAC/AMP (who is cappable to handle heads at 150 ohmi).

I listen with this FiiO E07K at almost the maximum volume (Gain +12 and volume at 55 out of 60) and it is loud enough for my taste, even very loud in some songs.

I don't know for sure but for what i heard if i add an AMP like FiiO E09K the sound will be much more better and detailed.

Can you tell me if I should buy this FiiO E09K ?


Edited by florin5000 - 2/7/13 at 3:22am
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Originally Posted by florin5000 View Post

Hello, I recently bought this headphones and also an FiiO E07K DAC/AMP (who is cappable to handle heads at 150 ohmi).

I listen with this FiiO E07K at almost the maximum volume (Gain +12 and volume at 55 out of 60) and it is loud enough for my taste, even very loud in some songs.

I don't know for sure but for what i heard if i add an AMP like FiiO E09K the sound will be much more better and detailed.

Can you tell me if I should buy this FiiO E09K ?

 

Heya,

 

Save your money. You're hearing it fine. The E07k has greater output than it's older counterparts and can actually handle most efficient 300ohm headphones. Which includes that Beyer.

 

I would not buy another amp at this point unless you just wanted some desk jewelry and have money to burn.

 

Even then, I would get a nice pretty looking OTL tube amp or something if you truly wanted to spend some money.

 

Very best,

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Originally Posted by florin5000 View Post

Hello, I recently bought this headphones and also an FiiO E07K DAC/AMP (who is cappable to handle heads at 150 ohmi).

I listen with this FiiO E07K at almost the maximum volume (Gain +12 and volume at 55 out of 60) and it is loud enough for my taste, even very loud in some songs.

I don't know for sure but for what i heard if i add an AMP like FiiO E09K the sound will be much more better and detailed.

Can you tell me if I should buy this FiiO E09K ?

 

There is NO WAY that the e07 at full volume would not make your ears bleed from the volume set that high. I am almost certain that you have a setup issue. Mostly likely your pc has it's volume set too low. The volume of the pc should be at 100%. Then you will adjust the e07 to your desired listening level. 

 

I think that you'll find that after you make that adjustment, you'll need to back the amp down to about +6 and you'll still be comfortable somewhere around 24-30 on the volume pot. 

 

Let me know if that works.

 

gL!!

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I am listening from an macbook air 11 inch 2012. The volume is 100% when using with FiiO but because this headphone are 250ohms, they sound weak with i use them with macbook's sound card... (if i use them on iphone 4s - is very very weak). Maybe i like to listen louder than most of the people but my hearing is fine ... but i will say that this beyers at +12 gain of FiiO and 55 percent are very loud indeed (with 100% percent from computer) but in no case it make's my ears bleeds.(Instead if i use my sennheiser hd215 with fiio yes it blows my ears ... i cant even use hd215 without fiio at max volume but they are 32 ohms i think) But I have to admit that in some songs 55-60 volume  is too loud... (and i listen only flacs and 320 kbps mp3).

That's why i asked if an additional amplifier would help me so i won't be forced to almost maximize the volumes on FiiO and computer because i know that if you maximize you have more distorsions


Edited by florin5000 - 2/7/13 at 6:34am
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I still think that you have an issue with the computer. I have the e07k and hp's that are much harder to drive than the beyer you have and I can make my ears bleed at +12 gain and then 45-55 on the volume pot. I don't know the mac so I can't really tell you where to look. But the volume may be different when you are dealing with a device from the hp jack and not the onboard speakers. 

 

Or you may have a faulty e07. Additionally, if the e07 is fine and the volume is properly adjusted on the mac, you seriously need to consider that you may be damaging your hearing. 

 

Finally, better amps won't really be all about more volume, although they certainly will give it. They are more about better dynamics, transpearency, soundstage and such. 

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I still think that you have an issue with the computer. I have the e07k and hp's that are much harder to drive than the beyer you have and I can make my ears bleed at +12 gain and then 45-55 on the volume pot. I don't know the mac so I can't really tell you where to look. But the volume may be different when you are dealing with a device from the hp jack and not the onboard speakers. 

 

Or you may have a faulty e07. Additionally, if the e07 is fine and the volume is properly adjusted on the mac, you seriously need to consider that you may be damaging your hearing. 

 

Finally, better amps won't really be all about more volume, although they certainly will give it. They are more about better dynamics, transpearency, soundstage and such. 

I don't know so much about audio.. but an additional amp like FiiO E09K will only make my headphones sound louder ? Not better ? At least to make a difference...

I don't want to hear louder because E07K delivers enough power but maybe better, clear with E09K.

From what MalVeauX said it seems that is not a good idea..

Also you made me think ... about the volume ...  I will take some of my friends to listen and hear their opinion about the volume that i listen...


Edited by florin5000 - 2/7/13 at 6:44am
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That's why i asked if an additional amplifier would help me so i won't be forced to almost maximize the volumes on FiiO and computer because i know that if you maximize you have more distorsions

 

Amplifiers actually perform best when their volume is set towards their maximum.

 

Getting a new amplifier, that provides more power, a different sound staging, different coloration, will make a small difference to your listening. It's not necessary. It will not be a big change. It will be a subtle change. The question is whether or not you think spending $100~200 on something that will provide a tiny, if any real noticeable change, is worth it. Right now you're listening and having no issues with volume. There's nothing wrong with running a device at maximum.

 

If you truly just want to spend some money, I would point you towards a Little Dot MK II+ in the $200 range for an OTL tube amp for your headphone.

 

Otherwise, some solid states: JDS O2, Schiit Magni and the Fiio E09k.

 

Very best,

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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post

 

Amplifiers actually perform best when their volume is set towards their maximum.

 

Getting a new amplifier, that provides more power, a different sound staging, different coloration, will make a small difference to your listening. It's not necessary. It will not be a big change. It will be a subtle change. The question is whether or not you think spending $100~200 on something that will provide a tiny, if any real noticeable change, is worth it. Right now you're listening and having no issues with volume. There's nothing wrong with running a device at maximum.

 

If you truly just want to spend some money, I would point you towards a Little Dot MK II+ in the $200 range for an OTL tube amp for your headphone.

 

Otherwise, some solid states: JDS O2, Schiit Magni and the Fiio E09k.

 

Very best,

 

Thx for this answer. That I wanted to know.

I will remain with FiiO E07K for now.

Thx again, MalVeauX

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Florin, does the E07k provide enough volume for Beyerdynamics with 250ohm ? I mean, not insanely loud , but enogh to enjoy them. I just tested a used(but good condition) Beyerdynamic DT770 80 ohm with E07k and I could not reach a high volume to enjoy them, even with E07k volume 50 and gain +6. I compared to my Sennheiser HD212 32 ohm and they really sound louder. Even if it is logical that for the same volume a 80 ohm headphone will sound less that a 32 ohm, I think that something was wrong with these DT770 . I simply could not obtain a volume to enjoy them. That's why I'm curious how you drive 250 ohm with e07k.

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