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post #271 of 698
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post

Yeah, 2 clicks up on the volume pot is the max I can go with my nt6 pros, any higher and it is too loud, and 1 click has channel imbalance. Oh well, the extraordinary sq is worth it tongue.gif
Also, for some reason the volume of the hiss stays the same throughout the whole range of the volume pot.

This amp may be the best sq portable amp in the world, but it definitely isn't the quietest! (this is the only area the pure II beats the wagnus in xD nt6 pro is completely silent / no hiss with pure ii)

Evolution has tried With Roxanne No hiss too
I am very Happy to hear it

Enjoy Your Wagnus
post #272 of 698
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Wagnus Epsilon S pair with LCD XC
Source : AK 240 use Line Out
Amp : Wagnus Epsilon S
Headphone : LCD XC
Cable : mini to mini Forza Europe hybrid silver and copper
SAA Endorphin balance 3 Pin > balance 3 Pin to 6,3 mm plug
Battery : Sanyo high capacity Eneloop XX 2550 mAh
Recommendation from Wagnus
Music : WAV and high res 24 bit / 192 KHz and DSD
My impression :
High : with Sanyo Eneloop high more clear and clean , excellent high more
Better pronounce , I heard cymbals more than before
Mid : very Good In clarity and very sweet
Bass : very Good bass impact and better bass Speed
Separation : has improvement too because clarity increase
Soundstage : very Wide and very Good Depth like In big concert hall
Overall :
With Sanyo eneloop , improve The SQ , now is Fuller , and better clarity too
So Far Wagnus is still My best SE amp
IMO




post #273 of 698
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

Darn it i might cave in and order one, Ive asked the wagnus folks to sale me one but they are charging me 8% Japan tax, sort of unfair as I dont live in Japan.

 

Do you guys know where I can get one cheap?

 

Have you tried price japan & musica acoustics? It is absolutely worth its asking price though. :)


Edited by zachchen1996 - 5/3/14 at 6:44am
post #274 of 698
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Have you tried price japan & musica acoustics? It is absolutely worth its asking price though. :)

I've and they are both the same price. I know a while back they were selling for 60000 Yen just before Fuji Avic decided to be there sole seller, after that they increased their prices a lot and now with the increase in Japan tax they just became insanely more expensive. I am just not sure if at the price they can better their desktop competition which have the ability to have toroidal PSU and a much more sturdy casing.

 

A few of my trusted sources told me it sounds does great but its con can out-weight its sound over time. Specially considering the current market it cant be that hard to find a better sounding amp with the same amount of money wagnus is asking for.

 

This is what has turned me off from buying it. Some folks tell me the amp section is as good as HUGO while other tell me with HUGO the some quality will even improve more. Who knows, I just dont want risk getting an amp that does not improve on HUGO. 

post #275 of 698
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I've and they are both the same price. I know a while back they were selling for 60000 Yen just before Fuji Avic decided to be there sole seller, after that they increased their prices a lot and now with the increase in Japan tax they just became insanely more expensive. I am just not sure if at the price they can better their desktop competition which have the ability to have toroidal PSU and a much more sturdy casing.

A few of my trusted sources told me it sounds does great but its con can out-weight its sound over time. Specially considering the current market it cant be that hard to find a better sounding amp with the same amount of money wagnus is asking for.

This is what has turned me off from buying it. Some folks tell me the amp section is as good as HUGO while other tell me with HUGO the some quality will even improve more. Who knows, I just dont want risk getting an amp that does not improve on HUGO. 

Hi Moe
In two weeks time I have my new Hugo , I can pair with Wagnus again and I will post here

Wagnus amp section SQ is better than Hugo amp section , the power from Wagnus is good for iems to low impedance headphone
Like Fostex TH 900 and LCD XC and X .
Wagnus can not drive my previous LCD 2 rev 3 and LCD 3

But Hugo amp section has more power , that Hugo can drive my Abyss 1266

Hugo as stand alone dac amp is excellent , because Hugo dac section is the best in portable dac

IMO
post #276 of 698
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

I've and they are both the same price. I know a while back they were selling for 60000 Yen just before Fuji Avic decided to be there sole seller, after that they increased their prices a lot and now with the increase in Japan tax they just became insanely more expensive. I am just not sure if at the price they can better their desktop competition which have the ability to have toroidal PSU and a much more sturdy casing.

 

A few of my trusted sources told me it sounds does great but its con can out-weight its sound over time. Specially considering the current market it cant be that hard to find a better sounding amp with the same amount of money wagnus is asking for.

 

This is what has turned me off from buying it. Some folks tell me the amp section is as good as HUGO while other tell me with HUGO the some quality will even improve more. Who knows, I just dont want risk getting an amp that does not improve on HUGO. 

 

I think I remember Rudi saying some time back that the wagnus is better than the amp section of the hugo. Of course you could find a better sounding desktop amp than the wagnus at the same price, but then it wouldn't be portable / transportable anymore! hahaha xp

post #277 of 698
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My second best DAP pair With Wagnus Epsilon S
Source : IBasso HDP R10
Amp : Wagnus Epsilon S
Headphone : LCD XC
Cable :
Mini to mini Custom cable hybrid silver and copper by Forza EU
SAA endorphin balance 3 pin with Abyss JPS cable adapter 3 pin to 6,3 mm plug
Music : WAV and hi res 24 bit 196 KHz
My impression :
High : smooth silky high with very good presence , cymbals swing so free
And not harsh
Mid : very sweet tube like midrange with very good pounce
Bass : very detail and very clean , bass impact is very good too
Separation : very good that I can very easy detect individual instrument
Soundstage : can produce wide soundstage in close headphone with very
Good depth
Overall :
I can hear for long listening with this audiophilesound quality , I turn the volume at 9.30 , sound so full , in low listening level I can hear all the detail so clear .
Ibasso HDP R10 is my second best DAP after AK 240
Even the latest ibasso DX 90 can not replace my HDP R10
IMO



SAA endorphin with balance 3 pin and Mahoney custom wood and JPS Abyss adapter 4 pin to 6,3 mm plug

post #278 of 698
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Hi Moe
In two weeks time I have my new Hugo , I can pair with Wagnus again and I will post here

Wagnus amp section SQ is better than Hugo amp section , the power from Wagnus is good for iems to low impedance headphone
Like Fostex TH 900 and LCD XC and X .
Wagnus can not drive my previous LCD 2 rev 3 and LCD 3

But Hugo amp section has more power , that Hugo can drive my Abyss 1266

Hugo as stand alone dac amp is excellent , because Hugo dac section is the best in portable dac

IMO

 

Definitely look forward to your impressions on hugo with wagnus vs. ak240 with wagnus :popcorn:

post #279 of 698
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Originally Posted by zachchen1996 View Post
 

 

I think I remember Rudi saying some time back that the wagnus is better than the amp section of the hugo. Of course you could find a better sounding desktop amp than the wagnus at the same price, but then it wouldn't be portable / transportable anymore! hahaha xp

Wish I bought a pair when Aussie dollar was ahead, cant believe I could have had one at one point for 600 USD, now it is close to 1200 USD, you see the reason why I have avoided getting wagnus for this long.

post #280 of 698
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Wish I bought a pair when Aussie dollar was ahead, cant believe I could have had one at one point for 600 USD, now it is close to 1200 USD, you see the reason why I have avoided getting wagnus for this long.

 

Just a suggestion,

since you said that you weren't that impressed with the hugo's sq, you could sell your hugo, get a wagnus, and still have money left over for a different DAP or DAC.

Though the source and amp are both incredibly important, based on my personal experiences, better amplification has brought more sq improvements than that of a better source. ymmv


Edited by zachchen1996 - 5/3/14 at 8:37am
post #281 of 698
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Just a suggestion,

since you said that you weren't that impressed with the hugo's sq, you could sell your hugo, get a wagnus, and still have money left over for a different DAP or DAC.

Though the source and amp are both incredibly important, based on my personal experiences, better amplification has brought more sq improvements than that of a better source. ymmv

No I enjoy its detailed sound I just dont like how the volume knob is implemented, I cant really manage to fine tune the volume I like to listen to. As a DAC it is just great. 

post #282 of 698
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Definitely look forward to your impressions on hugo with wagnus vs. ak240 with wagnus popcorn.gif

I hope in two weeks time I can get my new Hugo with new RCA hole biggrin.gif
post #283 of 698
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I hope in two weeks time I can get my new Hugo with new RCA hole biggrin.gif

 

2 weeks?! That must be a painful wait :biggrin:

 

Which rca interconnects are you planning on using with hugo? Was thinking about getting a custom rca cable with Xhadow rca plugs, but think they probably wont fit in the hugo. xp

post #284 of 698
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Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

No I enjoy its detailed sound I just dont like how the volume knob is implemented, I cant really manage to fine tune the volume I like to listen to. As a DAC it is just great. 

 

I'm thinking maybe I should just save for a hugo and be done with it, the sq impressions I read about it seem to match my preferences for a very clean, transparent, detailed sound.

Now to wait for Rudi's Hugo/Wagnus VS AK240/Wagnus showdown! :p

post #285 of 698
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2 weeks?! That must be a painful wait biggrin.gif

Which rca interconnects are you planning on using with hugo? Was thinking about getting a custom rca cable with Xhadow rca plugs, but think they probably wont fit in the hugo. xp

I sold my first Hugo , because my home RCA can not fit it
I hope with my new Hugo , my Shunyata RCA can fit
But my Shunyata Coax still can not fit it , new chassis Is only make RCA bigger , coax remain
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