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post #31 of 63
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I put a post in the forum you suggested.

 

About your experience, I see you have the DT880 and DT990 in both 250ohm and 600ohm setup. What are your thoughts on each?

 

Also, would you recommend trying out the Magni over the setup that you have?

post #32 of 63
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If gaming is your primary choice you should not pick up the Essence STX or the Titanium HD as these were designed specifically for music lovers in mind.  If gaming is your main focus as you stated above and you are looking for decent music quality as a secondary option you should get a card more catered towards gaming (gaming cards and music cards have different sound signatures).  I know Creative just came out with the ZxR and they have their Fata1ity series gaming cards as well as Asus has the Phoebus card.

 

I'm not sure what gave you that idea, because the X-Fi Titanium HD has the full gaming feature set expected of any true X-Fi card, which also happens to exceed the newer Sound Core3D cards (Recon3D and Z-series).

 

If you're just gaming, then maybe the extra money spent on the Titanium HD over a basic X-Fi Titanium wouldn't be as warranted since you likely wouldn't notice the extra increase in sound quality, but for those who do gaming and music listening in equal measure and seek no compromises in both, the Titanium HD is hard to beat. (The Onkyo SE-300PCIE might have a shot at dethroning it, but good luck getting your hands on one of those!)

 

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Creative must have fixed their driver support because I have always considered Creative the worst in driver management (that and the drivers are resource hogs).  Asus drivers aren't that bad and if you don't like it you at least have a 3rd party alternative (I have an STX).

 

If the Titanium HD taught me anything, it's that Creative's finally getting their official driver act together. For the other X-Fi cards I've used, I generally turn to Daniel_K's X-Fi Support Pack, which works pretty well on most cards...except the Titanium HD, which coincidentally happens to be the one card for which I don't feel like I need third-party driver packages to fix problems in the official driver release to begin with.

 

Sound card drivers are gonna be a pain no matter what you use, though. Creative, C-Media, Aureal, Realtek, IDT/SigmaTel, Analog Devices...each and every one of them has their quirks.

post #33 of 63
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Originally Posted by Dlauth View Post

I put a post in the forum you suggested.

 

About your experience, I see you have the DT880 and DT990 in both 250ohm and 600ohm setup. What are your thoughts on each?

 

Also, would you recommend trying out the Magni over the setup that you have?

Just not a big difference between 250-Ohm and 600-Ohm and the DT880 is more balanced.

 

I have though about getting the Titanium HD/Magni combo, But I've already added nice op-amps (AD797BR) to my STX.

and I also own the O2 (Objective 2) amp. which can work just like a desktop or portable amp.

I have the O2 plugged into the STX's RCA outputs and plug my ATH-A900Xs into the O2, 2-channel audio for music and for basic video stuff on the Internet.

post #34 of 63
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Creative must have fixed their driver support because I have always considered Creative the worst in driver management (that and the drivers are resource hogs).  Asus drivers aren't that bad and if you don't like it you at least have a 3rd party alternative (I have an STX). 

Asus really botched the Phoebus sound card drivers when that product was released. The STX could not keep certain speaker settings between reboots is another example (while the Creative Titanium HD did not suffer from this issue). In general I think that Creative is better at gaming specific features as well, if you only need it for stereo either company seems fine. At least that was the result of my forum research a while back. The landscape constantly changes of course as the software updates come. Both are very good pieces of hardware. So I am not saying the STX is a bad choice by any means, just that at the time I was swayed by the Titanium HD. It was also cheaper to buy.

 

I still think the better way is to not use a sound card at all, but of course that is more money. I plan on buying a Burson Conductor for the home PC and a Dragonfly USB/DAC headphone adapter for the Macbook Pro, link here for the Dragonfly:

 

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_703DRGNFLY/AudioQuest-DragonFly.html?showAll=N&search=dragonfly&skipvs=T

 

In fact, I am under the impression that the $250 Dragonfly is better sound quality than either of these sound cards. Same with the $300 Centrance DAC Port. 

 

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Edited by Neo Zuko - 2/6/13 at 3:58pm
post #35 of 63
Thread Starter 

Tried out some phones today after work.

 

I tried the AKG q701 and Beyer DT770 Pros.

 

I didnt have any loss less music but it was on a soundboard with a CD playing.

 

I thought the AKGs were more comfy than the Beyers and sounded cleaner(bigger soundstage) I did like the little more down low the Beyers had though.

 

One bonus the AKGs have is the removable cable. How would the DT880 and 990s compare to the phones I listened to?

 

If I could have a pair as comfy as the AKGs with a removable cable and sound in between the AKG and DT770 I think I would be pretty happy.

post #36 of 63
Remember, if you get a solid AMP to power your headphones it will have a subtle effect on the sound. If you went with a tube AMP, for example, it can make things sound a little more smooth and warm. Depending on the tubes and amp in question. It’s also important to compare quality of bass. For example, I’m pretty sure Beats have more bass than my HE-500’s. I’m even more sure that the bass in my HE-500’s is significantly more controlled and nuanced.
post #37 of 63
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Is $160 for Beyer BT880 - pro used a good price?

post #38 of 63
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Is $160 for Beyer BT880 - pro used a good price?

Very good price.

As long as they in good shape.

If the ear pads are worn out it's $31-$35 for replacements.

post #39 of 63

What version of the DT880s?  They come in (at least) 250 and 600 Ohm versions.

 

Also, I could be wrong, but I don't think the 880s have a removable cable (I know the 770s don't, I'm listening to them right now).  The COP (Custom One Pro) from Beyer does have a removable cable, from what I can tell.

post #40 of 63
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They are Pro - 250ohm.

post #41 of 63
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The more I think about it, the more I want a pair of phones with a removable cable. Any suggestions?
post #42 of 63

Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro, most of the mid-high AKGs, some higher end Sennheisers.

 

Or, buy the one you want and DIY a removable cable.  More tricky, but you get the phones you want with the removable cable you want.
 

post #43 of 63
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Really thinking the AKG q701 may be the way to go. Removable plug, cheap and look great! Are these recommended over the k702? 


Edited by Dlauth - 2/8/13 at 7:16pm
post #44 of 63
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Is it possible to have my sub play while running headphones?

What is the best way to set this up?

 

How would I hook up my reciever and headphones with the following setup?

Titanium HD and an external headphone amp

post #45 of 63
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Is it possible to have my sub play while running headphones?

Not unless you have it setup so that you can run the speakers and headphone at the same time, and then of course your speakers would be on. So unless your speakers are separately powered with a switch to turn off, probably not.
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How would I hook up my reciever and headphones with the following setup?
Titanium HD and an external headphone amp

Can you list all of your other equipment again (make and model)? Speakers and everything? Sorry I don't remember what you said you have. And it would help to better answer your other question.
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