music alchemist said:

  YKYAAW the only people you really talk to are Head-Fi members.
 
(I don't keep in touch with my old friends anymore...)

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You also have small talk conversation with people working at wherever you buy food from.

dobrescu george said:

  You also have small talk conversation with people working at wherever you buy food from.

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True, but they're not real conversations. Guess I'll be more social when I have more money...
 
YKYAAW you are reinvesting $600 or so into ad campaigns to hopefully afford tons of high-end audio gear!

music alchemist said:

   
True, but they're not real conversations. Guess I'll be more social when I have more money...
 
YKYAAW you are reinvesting $600 or so into ad campaigns to hopefully afford tons of high-end audio gear!

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When you will have more money you should be even less social, i mean, that is the time you will be spending time with your equipment.
 
At once i did retreat from socializing at all, and had gone into the woods [30 minutes walk from where i live] and had done this for a few weeks every day. in the end, i came back from the mountain another being...
 
i remember linking the offspring and maximum the hormone a lot back then...
 
and having a 512mb mp3 player, because i had lost my iriver e100 at the time..
 
i had some very average iems back then, but in that moment, with the setup they sounded amazing. something genius which costed around 10$. They had a lot of resolution, soundstage and bass, and different from your typical 10$ iem, they had lots of treble.
 
 
 
The moral is that socializing is not necessary to become a better man, but if you do not do it for a long enough time, you can get the problem zetsubou sensei got and forget how to use your voice...

dobrescu george said:

  When you will have more money you should be even less social, i mean, that is the time you will be spending time with your equipment.

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My daily listening time probably wouldn't change. But I want to launch various businesses in the future, including a digital music store and production company for video games and television series...so being sociable is kind of a requirement for that. Not to mention when I'm wealthier, I would want to go out and meet interesting people and network with some of them anyway. Plus I would have more time to spend with friends, and could travel wherever I want to meet them.

music alchemist said:

   
My daily listening time probably wouldn't change. But I want to launch various businesses in the future, including a digital music store and production company for video games and television series...so being sociable is kind of a requirement for that. Not to mention when I'm wealthier, I would want to go out and meet interesting people and network with some of them anyway. Plus I would have more time to spend with friends, and could travel wherever I want to meet them.

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Pretty good arguments.
 
But as you can win money fast and many at once, i can actually advice you to try to make passive income become real, and invest until you have around ~1000$ passive/month, and then you can actually relax a lot. 

dobrescu george said:

  Pretty good arguments.
 
But as you can win money fast and many at once, i can actually advice you to try to make passive income become real, and invest until you have around ~1000$ passive/month, and then you can actually relax a lot. 

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In case you didn't know, I have professional marketing experience. I've made thousands of dollars in a single day more than once. Passive income is great, but I prefer taking matters into my own hands. And $1,000 is nothing.

music alchemist said:

 
In case you didn't know, I have professional marketing experience. I've made thousands of dollars in a single day more than once. Passive income is great, but I prefer taking matters into my own hands. And $1,000 is nothing.

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 Maybe I should go into marketing...
 
YKYAAW you unplug electronics that are making high-pitched noise (from the electricity or something) in order to not be bothered when listening to music

trapz said:

 

 Maybe I should go into marketing...
 
YKYAAW you unplug electronics that are making high-pitched noise (from the electricity or something) in order to not be bothered when listening to music

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My old CRT tv does something like this. I do not watch TV since i was maybe 12, but when i go home, sometimes it is on, and the high frequency noise is bothering me a lot.
 
Going into marketing, is not so much about marketing as it is about HTML writting, and black hat SEO. I know about these things now, but i am not exactly the right person to try this, as it might backfire.
 
About this, music alchemist, how come that for you iti did not backfrie yet? i know quite a few blackhat seo tricks, but they tend to backfire after a few months or so.

dobrescu george said:

Going into marketing, is not so much about marketing as it is about HTML writting, and black hat SEO. I know about these things now, but i am not exactly the right person to try this, as it might backfire.  
About this, music alchemist, how come that for you iti did not backfrie yet? i know quite a few blackhat seo tricks, but they tend to backfire after a few months or so.

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There are countless ways to do marketing. SEO is just one way, but it takes too long and is not reliable. Paid advertising gets quick results, but is riskier. I struggled for years before making any money, and even after that, I failed many times. The only way to succeed is to persevere and try many different strategies. My current strategy is paid advertising + instant PayPal affiliate commissions + opt-in email marketing.

dobrescu george said:

  My old CRT tv does something like this. I do not watch TV since i was maybe 12, but when i go home, sometimes it is on, and the high frequency noise is bothering me a lot.
 
Going into marketing, is not so much about marketing as it is about HTML writting, and black hat SEO. I know about these things now, but i am not exactly the right person to try this, as it might backfire.

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Well in that case, I'm already on that path! I'll be doing programming the next couple of years and in college. I'll be learning mostly HTML and Java in high school, so I'd like to eventually have HTML, Java, and one of the C languages as my main languages.

trapz said:

  Well in that case, I'm already on that path! I'll be doing programming the next couple of years and in college. I'll be learning mostly HTML and Java in high school, so I'd like to eventually have HTML, Java, and one of the C languages as my main languages.

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If you want to learn about marketing, talk to people who have done marketing for a living. He is mistaken. Programming and SEO are only tiny aspects of marketing. There are hundreds of other things involved, and you only need to do a few of them to make a living from it.
 
If you're serious about marketing, a college degree may turn out to be useless, especially if you blaze your own path like me.

music alchemist said:

   
If you want to learn about marketing, talk to people who have done marketing for a living. He is mistaken. Programming and SEO are only tiny aspects of marketing. There are hundreds of other things involved, and you only need to do a few of them to make a living from it.
 
If you're serious about marketing, a college degree may turn out to be useless, especially if you blaze your own path like me.

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music alchemist said:

   
There are countless ways to do marketing. SEO is just one way, but it takes too long and is not reliable. Paid advertising gets quick results, but is riskier. I struggled for years before making any money, and even after that, I failed many times. The only way to succeed is to persevere and try many different strategies. My current strategy is paid advertising + instant PayPal affiliate commissions + opt-in email marketing.

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I totally agree, i tried only blackhat and softcore white hat SEO until now, and it is a pain in the back to do them, are risky, and backfire more than i expected.
 
What i do not understand is what excatly you can do to make money from this.
 
I mean, with blackhat seo, it is very simple, make a site, add data, as much as possible, make it look good, add lots of paid ads, wait for money and visitors while adding daily new data and adding every day more and more SEO to backbone it to put it first in google search etc. This backfires ugly if google fiinds you that you are using hidden strings for search.
 
I am looking for a way to improove myself, but i have no ideea from where to start reading, and how to start exactly.

trapz said:

  Well in that case, I'm already on that path! I'll be doing programming the next couple of years and in college. I'll be learning mostly HTML and Java in high school, so I'd like to eventually have HTML, Java, and one of the C languages as my main languages.

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I would avoid C.
Mathlab, deplhi, and countless others are way better for making money on your own. C is amazing for learning linux and programming in FGPA, you can win 3500$ a month working for somebody else, and even much more if you develop something new.

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music alchemist said:

   
warriorforum.com has tons of free info related to the countless marketing strategies I mentioned.

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thanks, i had not heared about it. I think that i started from SEO because i already knew a few things around SEO. How much it takes the average man to get to win 1000$ a month, with less than 1h/day of work? or in these conditions, it is not entirely possible?