Originally Posted by sebna
And would you not be bothered by the fact that after all the T1 are top of the line while HE-500 are close to it but not exactly a flagship? I mean in the sense of future pairing any of those HPs with some high end AMPs and DACs and possibly one of them reaching their limits earlier then other in terms of ultimate SQ in their specific sound signature? Also the official guidence for price range is a bit different and mismatched by far, which, at least in theory should warrant for better quality?
Nope, can't say it would bother me.. once we get to those price levels, it's really more about sound signature preference than actual technical ability. I only demoed the T1's briefly, and it was at the same time that I was first demoing the HD800's, so my memory of them might be slightly skewed because of that (since I was totally blown away by the HD800's). Given that I had such a short period to try them, I can't really say how they would scale with different amps, especially compared to Hifimans which are known to scale really well with more power. But don't get me wrong, the T1's were definitely good, but they were basically just like a nicer version of my DT880's. This means that they were a tiny bit on the bright side to be neutral, the bass wasn't as extended as I would like, and the mids were just a tad bit recessed. Compare this to the hifimans, which are also very well balanced, but have tamer and more well extended treble, and great forward mids, plus punchier bass (though, still lacking in extension), then you can see why I would recommend them. The Beyers are more detailed, and have a nicer soundstage than the Hifimans, but I'm not sure if those are areas you care about?
Originally Posted by sebna How would you compare your D600 to yours HiFi Mans and D2000 and Beyerdynamic? You mentioned that they are probably worse in anything but bass but by how much or would you reconsider ? :D
Well... apart from the two denons, those are all very different. I haven't actually listened to the D2000's, only my D5000's (both modded and stock), but compared to the D600's, they are certainly the more balanced phone due to the D600's [more deeply] recessed mids and lacking treble extension. That being said, if I'm to be totally, brutally honest... I've kinda taken a shine to the D600's despite their flaws, and like them just as much as the D5000's . I certainly listen to them a lot more than my D5000's, that's for sure. I guess that since I have plenty of other phones to deliver 'balance' and 'neutrality', I don't really crave it when listening to bass-centric cans like the Denons. Compared to the Beyers, the Beyers are quite a bit more balanced than the Denons with their tamer treble and more forward mids, but the bass is still not as well extended. Despite being significantly more bass-shy than the Denons, I would say the quality of the bass on the DT880's might actually be a bit better than the stock D5000's (but not better than the D600's). The beyers are also definitely more detailed, and have great imaging that the Denons can't quite match.
Edited by oblique63 - 2/2/13 at 9:07pm
As for the Hifimans, they are easily more neutral and balanced than the Denons, but I also find them to be a lot more neutral and detailed than my 880's (as described in the first part above). The bass however, still doesn't compare to the D600's, and I like my HD800's better for everything else (including bass texture, extension, and slam, surprisingly -- despite having less bass), so I don't use my Hifimans very much anymore. To clarify, I am mainly talking about my HE-5LE's here (which are supposedly closer to the HE-6's in sound), but I have tried the HE-500's and I would say pretty much all of what I've said so far applies to them just as well; the main difference being the level of detail that they both have. The HE-500's are a tad bit more lush and forgiving than the HE-5LE's, but I would have to listen to them again to be sure about how they compare vs the Beyers.