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post #61 of 77
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^^well its hard not to believe once you heard it..cool.gif

 

 

"It's a conspiracy, man! The oil companies got a grip on the government. They're feeding us a bunch of lies, man!"

post #62 of 77
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That's just the expanded view of the driver itself - I honestly don't remember if that plastic grille is all that separates the driver from the ear or not; iirc there's some more material, but it's been a while since I sold mine. redface.gif Andrew - can you comment on this?


You mean like poking it with a needle? blink.gif

post #63 of 77
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You mean like poking it with a needle? blink.gif


Haha, no there is nothing in between protective mesh and the cellulose membrane.

post #64 of 77
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"It's a conspiracy, man! The oil companies got a grip on the government. They're feeding us a bunch of lies, man!"

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You mean like poking it with a needle? blink.gif

I laughed at both...biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


Haha, no there is nothing in between protective mesh and the cellulose membrane.

No I just vaguely remember there being kind of a mesh, like Grado or AT headphones have over the driver, and then the plastic grille bit and then the driver. As opposed to "raw" driver, like some Koss headphones.

Found this picture, which seems to agree with my memory:


The mesh should repel most larger debris, but in theory "grattle" could be a problem here as with any other headphone that doesn't have foam/fabric over the driver opening (like the Koss 950).
post #65 of 77
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so no transparent plastic between the mesh and the membrane ? I just want to hope that there is some kinda adhesive plastic coating on the membrane to make its surface rigid and uninviting to foreign bodies .. 

 

hmmmmmmmmm ... any suggestions for better preventive measures ? or rather I need not worry at all ? 

 

thx all! 


Edited by ayaflo - 2/6/13 at 9:39pm
post #66 of 77
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Originally Posted by facilitator View Post

so no transparent plastic between the mesh and the membrane ? I just want to hope that there is some kinda adhesive plastic coating on the membrane to make its surface rigid and uninviting to foreign bodies .. 

 

hmmmmmmmmm ... any suggestions for better preventive measures ? or rather I need not worry at all ? 

 

thx all! 


I can only imagine how that would make headphones sound, membrane pulsation transmits sound/air wave to your ear and you put reflective plastic on a way of it. rolleyes.gif

 

Preventive measures? Just shave your ears from time to time biggrin.gif and if you ever hear grattle just blow the drivers with some air from rubber bulb, but I've never heard of the grattle problem on MDR-SA5000.

post #67 of 77
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Originally Posted by Amarphael View Post

FWIW the SA5000 can indeed show differences between cables rather noticeably:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/462270/mdr-sa5000-can-they-be-bettered/255#post_6685486

 

Eventually tho i kept the stock pair as i realized that i prefer the meaner and leaner character better than the marginal mellowness the BDv2 offered.

 

yes the mids have good body doesn't sound 'hollow' or 'thin' to my ears .. and is also considerably natural but still do not have any euphonic flavour like some of the Shures do... 

 

I find it hard not to believe that the sound has not been flavoured by this recable although Andrew here is skeptic .... lol!

post #68 of 77
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Originally Posted by facilitator View Post

 

yes the mids have good body doesn't sound 'hollow' or 'thin' to my ears .. and is also considerably natural but still do not have any euphonic flavour like some of the Shures do... 

 

I find it hard not to believe that the sound has not been flavoured by this recable although Andrew here is skeptic .... lol!

Please do some DBT with stock and aftermarket cables and come back to report the results, then we can talk.

Sorry, but I've done my share of testing already, you seem just assume.

And if you can find at least one measurements confirmed difference from aftermarket cable from any cable manufacturer, please post it here as well, I am dying to see them.

 

LOL biggrin.gif


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 2/7/13 at 11:13pm
post #69 of 77
^^I don't think thats going to be possible with a recable.
post #70 of 77
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Originally Posted by drez View Post

^^I don't think thats going to be possible with a recable.


Not with hard wired cables, unless you have two absolutely identically sounding pairs to begin with (not gonna happen).

My test was on HD650 and K271S and Zu cables. Anything with replaceable cables like HD800 or LCD or HE will do just as well. Anyhow, sorry for derailing, should stop talking cables. smile.gif


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 2/8/13 at 10:43am
post #71 of 77
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Sorry, but I've done my share of testing already, you seem just assume.

 

my first preference in audio until now was the TWFK Balanced Armature - which is very 'thin' and don't show much texture...compared to this I just do not find the SA-5000 to be 'thin' .. also my Beyerdynamic DT-990 PRO provide a full-fledged thick sound that is almost opposite the Sony for me - so that is my share of meatier sounding cans .. I would n't still say the SA-5000 was 'thin' - its just cold and detailed!

 

again Andrew sorry to offend you or anything ...lol!

post #72 of 77
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I do not find the SA-5000 harsh at all ... if that were the case I would have to label all my other phones as harshhhhhh....

Now I should also let you know that I've not had the chance to check out the stock cans, just this one with recabled with 7N OCC copper ...so your opinion might stick to stock cans and that copper recabling does the trick .. the sound is not bright .. I would rather call it neutral in tone..

 

The bass on these are just too simply amazing and perfect in quantity for me ..I do not wish for a milligram more really ..

 

They're one of my favorite cans so I wouldn't go around calling them harsh, simply in direct comparison to the 3000s they are a tad more prone to sibilance. Also imagine just a smidge less bass and a little less bloat.

 

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Stock cable is copper, and the only thing aftermarket cable improves is aesthetic and handling.

 

Exactly.

post #73 of 77
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Something that caught my eye - from another thread ..

 

have a good day y'all

post #74 of 77
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I got a link to the manual of the SA-5k

 

http://www.manualowl.com/m/Sony/MDR-SA5000/Manual/66208

 

fact  & findings 

 

1. Porous housing

 

" by adopting a porous housing with a cellulose material finished to give appropriate air-flow resistance, unpleasant resonance is minimized and eliminated some weights of the unit"

 

2. 360 kJ/m^3 high power neomdymium magnets are used to reproduce clear mid-range sounds and wealthy low range sounds.

 

3. 6N-OFC texture cord and 6N-OFC with super high purity (99.9999%) is used for the core of the cord..

post #75 of 77
Didn't even think to look in the manual for the cable spec; sorry. ph34r.gif
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