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post #46 of 77
2/5/13 at 8:06am
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I am right now suffering from Acute Pharengytis.. so under the influence of lotsa drugs hence such insane observations..

 

 

....they provide a very microscopic view into the music none the less ..

Any recommendations on the type of drugs suitable for such events? I tried Bud and Corona, but they are too filling.

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post #47 of 77
2/5/13 at 8:23am
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Any recommendations on the type of drugs suitable for such events?

 

 

try nux vomica

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post #48 of 77
2/5/13 at 12:29pm
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I've gone through a couple of threads on the SA-5000 and almost everyone quotes that they have a 'bright' signature that can be tiring in the long run and offensive

personally I have never felt the sound to be bright or rather offensive.. I would rather put them as 'cold' ,  un-emotive & effortless .. 

If they consider the SA-5000 to be bright - they should hear the DT-990 pro .. that has very piercing treble unless through a tube amp ..

I will be auditioning the tube-magic A1 within another week - will keep you updated on the synergy ..

regards,

I think what separates the SA5000 from most "bright" headphones is that they aren't also harsh or clashy. Compared to something like the MDR-F1 though, they are still boosted in the treble; they have less of that "audiophile euphony." I think overall though, they're about on-par with the RS-1 in terms of treble quantity; it's more than "average" or "neutral" but it isn't overbearing (at least imho).
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post #49 of 77
2/5/13 at 1:00pm
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The drivers in the SA5k and SA3k, iirc, have the same partnumber/order-code, while the Qualia is a different driver - all are "Nanocomposite" as opposed to the biocellulose found in the CD3000, R10, and such (and I have never heard a 100% explanation of what "Nanocomposite" is meant to mean, I've heard the phrases "crushed glass" and "glass fibre" thrown around wrt these drivers though). The F1 have different drivers (PET afaik).
 

 

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Hmmm..The SA3000 is still available on Amazon for $170. Aside from the Magnesium construction, the main difference from the SA5000 is cloth earpads instead of leather and sticker covering holes on the drivers rear. I think that with some mods and a recable that these could be as good or better than SA5000 but you would need to retrofit leather pads for equal bass.

 

There is little love for the SA3000 however having heard both I believe it's the better headphone. Its much more neutral across the board, isn't as harsssssh and has much more air (greater instrument separation) in comparison. The only attribute the SA5000 has going for it is the bass, which lingers a little longer mainly due to the leather/pleather earpads. Unless you're looking for a fast phone for electronica and the likes the SA3000 does most genres accurately.

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post #50 of 77
2/5/13 at 11:55pm
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There is little love for the SA3000 however having heard both I believe it's the better headphone. Its much more neutral across the board, isn't as harsssssh and has much more air (greater instrument separation) in comparison. The only attribute the SA5000 has going for it is the bass, which lingers a little longer mainly due to the leather/pleather earpads. Unless you're looking for a fast phone for electronica and the likes the SA3000 does most genres accurately.

 

I do not find the SA-5000 harsh at all ... if that were the case I would have to label all my other phones as harshhhhhh....

Now I should also let you know that I've not had the chance to check out the stock cans, just this one with recabled with 7N OCC copper ...so your opinion might stick to stock cans and that copper recabling does the trick .. the sound is not bright .. I would rather call it neutral in tone..

 

The bass on these are just too simply amazing and perfect in quantity for me ..I do not wish for a milligram more really ..

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post #51 of 77
2/6/13 at 12:05am
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about the innards of the SA-5k, I just had a doubt about the driver exposed directly to the ear.. can you confirm if this is the case? I mean it ll then need extra care, attention and caressing....protection from foreign bodies .. 

 

I asked another ex-user(gsferrari) of the SA-5k ..and he replied 

 

"I wouldn't worry about the drivers. They are behind a bit of transparent cover IIRC..."

 

would really help if someone can further confirm....

 

thx 

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post #52 of 77
2/6/13 at 7:57am
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I do not find the SA-5000 harsh at all ... if that were the case I would have to label all my other phones as harshhhhhh....

Now I should also let you know that I've not had the chance to check out the stock cans, just this one with recabled with 7N OCC copper ...so your opinion might stick to stock cans and that copper recabling does the trick .. the sound is not bright .. I would rather call it neutral in tone..

 

The bass on these are just too simply amazing and perfect in quantity for me ..I do not wish for a milligram more really ..


Stock cable is copper, and the only thing aftermarket cable improves is aesthetic and handling.

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post #53 of 77
2/6/13 at 9:41am
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Stock cable is copper, and the only thing aftermarket cable improves is aesthetic and handling.

 

the Stock cable must be 5N OFC/6N OFC - this is purely a guess and you are more than welcome to correct me on this .. 

 

but the original trader told me he recabled it with 7N OCC - thats higher grade than either of the two above or whatever stock cable material - along with this he mentioned that it gave much more body to the mids....

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post #54 of 77
2/6/13 at 9:49am
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the Stock cable must be 5N OFC/6N OFC - this is purely a guess and you are more than welcome to correct me on this .. 

 

but the original trader told me he recabled it with 7N OCC - thats higher grade than either of the two above or whatever stock cable material - along with this he mentioned that it gave much more body to the mids....


Doesn't matter, from my experience they do not bring much if anything to the table in sound department. Sorry for going off topic.

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post #55 of 77
2/6/13 at 9:59am
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Doesn't matter, from my experience they do not bring much if anything to the table in sound department. Sorry for going off topic.

 

 

So my thoughts on these will be valid for a stock SA-5K as well ? Thanks! ..I do not think I will ever get to listen to a stock version so I have to lend your ears and advise tongue.gif..besides the availability of good audio products in my country is very bad tbh.. 

 

eitherway I would like to bring to your attention that I am a believer of cables - I had my SE-535 recabled with 6N OFHC Silver Plated Copper and that did a marginal difference out of my poor source yet noticeable ..

 

regards,

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post #56 of 77
2/6/13 at 10:01am
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observation #5 

 

These are now forcing me to think of selling my DT-990 PRO

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post #57 of 77
2/6/13 at 11:02am
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eitherway I would like to bring to your attention that I am a believer of cables - I had my SE-535 recabled with 6N OFHC Silver Plated Copper and that did a marginal difference out of my poor source yet noticeable ..

 

regards,

You said it yourself "believer", one needs to believe to hear, been there myself, still have a slew of aftermarket cables I've collected over years.

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post #58 of 77
2/6/13 at 11:15am
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^^well its hard not to believe once you heard it..cool.gif

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post #59 of 77
2/6/13 at 11:42am

FWIW the SA5000 can indeed show differences between cables rather noticeably:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/462270/mdr-sa5000-can-they-be-bettered/255#post_6685486

 

Eventually tho i kept the stock pair as i realized that i prefer the meaner and leaner character better than the marginal mellowness the BDv2 offered.


Edited by Amarphael - 2/6/13 at 11:44am
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post #60 of 77
2/6/13 at 12:53pm
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about the innards of the SA-5k, I just had a doubt about the driver exposed directly to the ear.. can you confirm if this is the case? I mean it ll then need extra care, attention and caressing....protection from foreign bodies .. 

I asked another ex-user(gsferrari) of the SA-5k ..and he replied 

"I wouldn't worry about the drivers. They are behind a bit of transparent cover IIRC..."


would really help if someone can further confirm....


thx 

That's just the expanded view of the driver itself - I honestly don't remember if that plastic grille is all that separates the driver from the ear or not; iirc there's some more material, but it's been a while since I sold mine. redface.gif Andrew - can you comment on this?
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