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post #106 of 204
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Originally Posted by technica18 View Post


Are you sure it puts out 1400mW into 300Ohms? Based on my calculation I was thinking more like 107mW.

I was referring to the SA-31 putting out 1400mW at 300 ohms and contrasting how the Soloist SL doesn't lose much in perceived dynamics despite the large power deficit.  I suppose I should have clarified.

post #107 of 204
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Originally Posted by JWahl View Post

 

I found them to have excellent synergy at a recent meet.  More so than my current amp I felt, and it puts 1400mw into 300 ohms.  I even slightly preferred it to the V200, though it's also an excellent choice with the HD800.  Something about the Soloist SL was able to give a certain wholeness to the HD800 across the frequency range and also what I felt to be a very accurate and focused soundstage.  So much so that I didn't feel the need to keep my crossfeed DSP enabled which is big for me.  

 

Of course this makes me more curious about the full size Soloist but the SL seems like an excellent value in it's own right.  And if you don't like stepped attenuators the volume pot on the SL is silky smooth and easy to make fine adjustments.  I'm almost tempted to get it instead on that alone.  But I think I'd always wonder what if, myself.

 

Which amp sounded warmer, of the SA-31, V200 and Soloist SL? I'm running the SA-31 with Beyerdynamic T1, which I quite enjoy, but the V200 and Soloist SL seem like very good alternatives. I originally bought the SA-31 for planars but will probably use the T1 as my only headphone for some time, so I'm looking at other amps - primarily solid state amps with a touch of warmth - just like the SA-31, but perhaps replacing some of its raw power with even higher overall sound quality (the SA-31 is great, but of course there's always a next level).

post #108 of 204
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Originally Posted by Utopia View Post

 

Which amp sounded warmer, of the SA-31, V200 and Soloist SL? I'm running the SA-31 with Beyerdynamic T1, which I quite enjoy, but the V200 and Soloist SL seem like very good alternatives. I originally bought the SA-31 for planars but will probably use the T1 as my only headphone for some time, so I'm looking at other amps - primarily solid state amps with a touch of warmth - just like the SA-31, but perhaps replacing some of its raw power with even higher overall sound quality (the SA-31 is great, but of course there's always a next level).

I felt like the V200 was the warmest and smoothest of the three and the SA-31 being the least warm, even with the "Warm 1" jumpers on.  Regrettably, I didn't get to try any planars on the Soloist SL or V200 to compare.  I thought the LCD-3  sounded better than the HD-800 on the SA-31 but I enjoyed the HD-800 more with the V200 and Soloist SL.  The person with the expensive boutique tube amp thought the SA-31 sounded a little "sterile" in comparison to the Burson, but I wouldn't describe it that way on it's own.  

 

The Soloist SL has a more natural and organic sound with the HD800 but the SA-31 is probably a little "faster" and more detailed.  The gap my shorten or disappear with the full size soloist I suspect.  I also preferred the soundstage presentation with the Burson more so than the SA-31.  Also with the Soloist SL, I found myself more drawn into the musical without over-analyzing all the pieces which for some could be a good thing.

post #109 of 204

Thank you for that detailed response! I'm getting the impression that the SA-31 holds up pretty well, but at the same time the Soloist SL sounds like a good middle ground between the warmth and smoothness of the V200 and speed and detail of the SA-31.

post #110 of 204

Hi guys, I have a side question to fellow SL owners, from what I recently read about the schiit asgard there was a problem where if the amp is turned on/off with the headphone attached, the driver distorts horribly which might result in a damage, do you guys know whether the soloist SL have a similar problem like the headphone should be removed before each power cycle or not?

 

Thanks

post #111 of 204
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Originally Posted by Chik0240 View Post

Hi guys, I have a side question to fellow SL owners, from what I recently read about the schiit asgard there was a problem where if the amp is turned on/off with the headphone attached, the driver distorts horribly which might result in a damage, do you guys know whether the soloist SL have a similar problem like the headphone should be removed before each power cycle or not?

 

Thanks

 

the schiit asgard no longer has that problem as they are installing relays in the newer ones that protect your headphones from this issue. afaik the soloist sl has relays built in and don't have this issue.

 

it is still recommended by some to plug in your headphones after you power your amp and remove them prior to shutting it off, i personally don't.

post #112 of 204

thanks fungus,

 

    I personally only turn the volume dial to min before powering on or off the amp, but that's just a curious question, since I am only recently entering this hobby and the SL is my very first amp purchased.

post #113 of 204
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Originally Posted by Chik0240 View Post

Hi guys, I have a side question to fellow SL owners, from what I recently read about the schiit asgard there was a problem where if the amp is turned on/off with the headphone attached, the driver distorts horribly which might result in a damage, do you guys know whether the soloist SL have a similar problem like the headphone should be removed before each power cycle or not?

 

Thanks

 

You're safe with the SL. Having my headphones plugged all day and never had issues. 

 

What do you think about the SL so far? 

post #114 of 204

I am so satisfied with the SL, personally I think it did fully revealed the potential of my HE500 and is very neutral sounding which is what I am looking for!

post #115 of 204

New to forum!

 

The Burson Soloist SL has been in the house here for 2+months...great addition

 

My other amp is the Decware CSP2 tube pre/head amp for the last 3+years....So, it was really awesome to add the SS Burson

 

I can elaborate on my impressions between the two some other time

 

At this point I can't complain about either amp and love having tubes and SS

 

the Soloist SL brought back to life my AKG 701's that were on the sidelines, because that didn't sound great with the OTL Decware CSP2

 

Highly recommend the Soloist SL to any head-fier who wants to test the SS amp waters...the sound is so detailed, real, delicate, etc. etc.!!!!

 

............what a bargain of an amp!!!

post #116 of 204

I have listened to the Soloist SL with my own AKG 550, Beyerdynamic T1,

and a complementary Audeze LCD-3, and I have to say I am more than impressed,

especially when paired with LCD-3. 

 

I have listened to amplifiers like Beyerdynamic A1 & Musical Fidelity M1, and none of this has

Burson's warm sonic character, bass authority, and good grip on the treble.

The amp also shows little distortion when driven hard. Beyer A1 probably sounds darker

and has a slightly better holographic quality than the Burson but Burson triumphs in terms of

bass quality and quantity.

 

Paired with the Audeze, the Soloist SL presents an impressive soundstage with

electronic and classical music. I have found a new level of scale with Beethoven's

9th from Decca. It also shows a new depth to Prodigy's "Mindfields" which sounds

congested before. The beats from Chemical Brothers' "Do It Again" & "Believe" dig deep, 

and I find myself sampling my old collection of classic rocks like Led Zeppelin.

The little Burson articulates the low growl of Zeppelin guitars with gobs of

power and neutrality. The treble of Jazz vocals like Diana Krall & Laura Fygi

which often sound sibilant on Beyer A1 (to my ears anyway) is nicely reigned in.

Together with the Audeze, Burson has a very inviting analogue sound, plush, with none of

that fatiguing digital "thinness."

 

This loaner is a keeper.

post #117 of 204

I had a chance to demo the LCD-3 at Chicago Axpona....and was totally blown away...I will have to go back and look at pics to see what amp was being used...

The LCD-2 were also nice, but the LCD-3 kinda ruined any impression I had of the LCD-2,

 

the LCD-2 or 3, HE-400, and HE-500 are all on my list of headphones I would like to demo with the Burson Soloist SL....from what I am reading the Soloist SL and planars are a good match?

post #118 of 204

Thanks ZackZack for the great, detailed impression of your Soloist SL. It sounds just like the sound signature I want in an amp for my headphones.

 

I placed my order yesterday for the Soloist SL over at Audio Affair. Seems they have no stock at present but hope to get it within the next 3-4 weeks.

 

I had a bit of a revelation the other night. I was using my Ultrasone HFI-780 straight from my Asus Xonar STX and after an hour the sound starts grating. It's always been an issue. I then decided to use the headphone out of my Creative desktop speakers, and so, in turn relying on the amplification from the Creative speakers; and I was amazed. The grating treble was gone, everything sounded so much more tolerable. The bass was not as hard hitting as running the headphones straight from the Xonar, but it's good enough.It was at this point I realised how much of a difference an amp can actually make to the sound signature of a headphone.

 

I'm really looking forward to my Baby Soloist.

 

:)
 

post #119 of 204
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Originally Posted by zackzack View Post

I have listened to the Soloist SL with my own AKG 550, Beyerdynamic T1,

and a complementary Audeze LCD-3, and I have to say I am more than impressed,

especially when paired with LCD-3. 

 

It'd be great to hear more about how the SL works with the T1. I image the bass and the warmth might be a good fit.

post #120 of 204

My Baby Soloist is arriving tomorrow!

 

Two problems: I'm not in the UK for another 2.5 weeks; and I'm still trying to get a pair of Beyer T5p.

 

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