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post #886 of 2271

I'm really turned on by the fact that I keep reading the WA7 is one of the most un-tubey sounding tube amps on the market. I don't really like warming up a signature too much because I tend to like cans that are next to neutral and/or somewhat on the bright side. There's a couple of things that are keeping me from purchasing the WA7. Maybe you guys can help me look at it from a different perspective because I would really like to be excited about buying it.

 

The biggest thing is the fact that it's an amp/DAC combo. I like the idea of dedicated equipment so you can tinker with finding the perfect combination yourself. When you want to replace your DAC with something better, you can, but now you're only using a portion of your $1000 purchase. That's a turn off for me. I thought maybe the WA6 was a DAC-less WA7, but I don't think that's the case.

 

The other thing I'm worried about is that the tech in DACs change much faster than the tech in a tube amp. If I purchase a DAC, I would like upgradeable options on there. When new tech becomes available in the future, will I be able to change out a USB card or an analog converter component on the WA7?

 

Another thing. I don't like power bricks. I get that it makes the desktop footprint smaller on the WA7, but I already think the thing is way too small. This one isn't so important. Just something that bugs me. "Oh that little thing in the corner, that was $1000." Bah. Give me some heft.

 

Alright, so the third thing was pretty superficial, so don't even bother commenting on it because that's just me being picky. The first two, though, I think they are valid issues I have to get by. Thoughts?

post #887 of 2271

Let me help you out: Don't think of it as a combo. You are buying a great amp.  

 

It happens to have a decent DAC that you can choose to use...or not. I rarely use the DAC on the WA7... but I am glad it is there.  It makes my setup so much more flexible.  And it's nice to know that I have backup in case something happens with my primary DAC.

 

See what a difference a little change in perspective makes? ;) 

post #888 of 2271
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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post
 

Let me help you out: Don't think of it as a combo. You are buying a great amp.  

 

It happens to have a decent DAC that you can choose to use...or not. I rarely use the DAC on the WA7... but I am glad it is there.  It makes my setup so much more flexible.  And it's nice to know that I have backup in case something happens with my primary DAC.

 

See what a difference a little change in perspective makes? ;) 

 

Definitely a nice way of seeing things. I ended up upgrading the dac portion of to the yulong DA8. Definitely keeps things flexible.

post #889 of 2271
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Definitely a nice way of seeing things. I ended up upgrading the dac portion of to the yulong DA8. Definitely keeps things flexible.

+1

I'm not using the WA7's DAC either, but rather have it mated to the exaSound e20 MkIII. A fantastic sounding combination with my LCD-3's!!
post #890 of 2271
So then, is the DAC upgradable like, say, a Bifrost? Also, is there any standalone amp in Woo's lineup that sounds like a WA7?
post #891 of 2271

hey guys i am using the WA7's DAC , what DAC should i got for if i wanted some nice upgrade, also how will it change the sound?? 

post #892 of 2271

Isn't it worrying that tube amps in comparison to solid state are less energy efficient? So its a tube amp that doesn't sound 'tubey' that is less efficient than a SS amp...

Each to their own. I still like the look of this amp/dac. Its beautiful.

post #893 of 2271
Just wondering hows the yulong and wa7 combo ?
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Definitely a nice way of seeing things. I ended up upgrading the dac portion of to the yulong DA8. Definitely keeps things flexible.
post #894 of 2271

Has anyone tried the LCD-X/XC with the WA7?  I'm most likely going to get one or the other if the combo is as good as it gets.  Also, is there any way to use the DAC only with a desktop set-up?  I'd like to not use the tubes at all times.

 

Thanks in advance.

post #895 of 2271

i was thinking about Resonessence lab's CONCERO as a DAC for the WA7, will i get a noticeable difference? or i will end up wasting 600$ ??

post #896 of 2271
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i was thinking about Resonessence lab's CONCERO as a DAC for the WA7, will i get a noticeable difference? or i will end up wasting 600$ ??

Shini, I'm eyeing the same DAC. You pull the trigger first lol.

post #897 of 2271
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Shini, I'm eyeing the same DAC. You pull the trigger first lol.

i won't till someone tell me this is a good upgrade, and an upgrade is something that will make a noticeable difference, else why would i pay 600$ for a subtle change? thats why i need a clear answer..... yet seems like no answer yet.....   yet i assume its a nice DAC, its powered through the PC too!! so i can use my iUSB and Gemini cable with it :P    

i wish it can make a noticeable difference, lets wait for some answers bro :P 

post #898 of 2271
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i won't till someone tell me this is a good upgrade, and an upgrade is something that will make a noticeable difference, else why would i pay 600$ for a subtle change? thats why i need a clear answer..... yet seems like no answer yet.....   yet i assume its a nice DAC, its powered through the PC too!! so i can use my iUSB and Gemini cable with it :P    

i wish it can make a noticeable difference, lets wait for some answers bro :P 

 

Depends on what you mean by "upgrade" DAC. My exaSound e20 is a superb sounding DAC (native DSD compatible, 32-bit 384khz DXD, awesome sound) but then again it's $3K and probably not exactly what you mean by "upgrade", so some more parameters need to be specified.

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Depends on what you mean by "upgrade" DAC. My exaSound e20 is a superb sounding DAC (native DSD compatible, 32-bit 384khz DXD, awesome sound) but then again it's $3K and probably not exactly what you mean by "upgrade", so some more parameters need to be specified.

call me a noob but i don't know how does a better DAC change the sound or do we need it?  for me i know how does an amp change the sound cause i moved from Uha MK II to Mavrik D2 to Yulong D100 MK II to WA7 atm, so i can tell the difference, but didn't ever bought a DAC alone so totally got no exp with that :< needed help here etc to learn more about DACs. 

post #900 of 2271
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don't remember seeing many if any with conductor on this thread, plus specifically the hd800s.

 

i did have the soloist (the amp portion of the conductor) in combo with the gungnir for a little while but that was with the akg702-65.

 

so my insight wont help to your exact inquiry but ill give my impressions with that combo, though its not fair cause the gungnirs a good amount better than the wa7's dac.

 

as far as sound quality i would say soloist >= wa7 w/ eh tubes > > wa7 w/ stock tubes. im assuming the soloist sounded better cause of the gungnir.

 

i can't recall the signature sounding much different, the wa7 has been described as ss sounding.

 

i would say they're fairly equal (if its with the eh tubes), don't think you'll really gain anything. but thats only for the akg702-65. since the hd800s have a different sig i can't say for sure.

 

if you're trying to get a smoother sound the stock tubes would work well with them but you'll lose some transparency and bass (quality and impact). eh tubes might make the treble and bit too sparkly/harsh unless thats your thing.

 

hopefully someone with that exact combo appears to help you though.

Thanks!

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