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Originally Posted by project86 View Post

But I don't know what you mean when you say "bypassing" the filters. Your R2R DAC probably requires a separate chip like a PMD100 or something, but the ESS chips have internal filters. 

 

 

You're just a Yulong fiend aren't you! Poor D18 will get out out to pasture I suppose. 

Ah my bad, I mean to my understanding the ESS9018 has two ways to accept digital signal. All normal digital inputs are reclocked by the onboard ARSC inside the Sabre; only the i2s input bypass this reclocking.

 

I've heard some users reporting huge performance jump using the i2s input of a Sabre dac with the OR5, or similar i2s solution (the xmos based exa for example)and I have always been curious about this.


Edited by khaine1711 - 4/25/13 at 3:47pm
post #62 of 498
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Originally Posted by Grant Fidelity View Post

sorry - it was a misunderstanding whether the $1100 includes shipping or not. We have to abide by same price as set by Yulong and in line with all other dealers. 

 

No worries, just pulling your leg wink.gif

post #63 of 498

A silly question: is remote controlled?

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Originally Posted by Esprit View Post

A silly question: is remote controlled?

 

I don't believe so. There's no mention of it, and I don't see any type of sensor area on the front panel. 

post #65 of 498

The Mytek haven't a sensor in the front panel (nor my Bryston pre). They are remote-controlled.

I read in Chinese 3ad the same question but I have not figured out if there will be it in the future.


Edited by Esprit - 4/26/13 at 4:35am
post #66 of 498

certainly no.

post #67 of 498

In any case, if I understand it, the internal volume can be bypassed.

post #68 of 498

project86, i am also waiting for your impression .

 

already sold d18 .  and d18 gives me a very good impression. 

 

the downside i dont like is dont understand why da8 will include a so so head amp.

 this is a waste and increase the cost.

post #69 of 498

I think it's included to keep in line with the other DACs that it's competing with. Also, at $1200 (preorder) if you get an amp that is better than the A100 ($360 value) I think that's a pretty nice bonus for those looking for a one box solution. Though, you are right in that most people who are forking over this much for a DAC probably already have a dedicated amp.

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Originally Posted by colour97 View Post

project86, i am also waiting for your impression .

 

already sold d18 .  and d18 gives me a very good impression. 

 

the downside i dont like is dont understand why da8 will include a so so head amp.

 this is a waste and increase the cost.

I am the opposite, even budget allows, I specifically looking for DAC with integrated headphone amp / preamp.   

Because external amp was always a headache for me,   it was unpredictable what colorization and veil the amp and cables may induce into the system, in the end I wasted too much time swapping amps and cables.      

In the past, the only products that can give me totally transparent, trustable sound are Benchmark DAC1 and Anedio. 

That's the reason I didn't pull the trigger on NAD M51, Wyred DAC, D18.     And waiting for DA8.

 

From the design you think the DA8's amp won't be very good?


Edited by yfei - 4/26/13 at 2:50pm
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If, as Yulong claims, the amp on the DA8 falls, quality wise, between the A100 and the A18, I don't suspect it will be of mediocre quality. Depending on where in that range it falls, the quality could be anywhere from respectable to exceptional. I guess only some first hand listening will let us know. Hopefully that is only 2 to 3 weeks away from now
Edited by mrcasey - 4/26/13 at 8:25pm
post #72 of 498
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Can we get a translation on this?

 

 

 

Yes - English version will come in about one week time after Yulong releases it. 

post #73 of 498

Wasn't it the case that previous Yulong DAC's were poor performers using the SE outputs. They used a cheap Balanced to SE conversion for RCA outputs?

 

Is this the case with the DA8 as well?

post #74 of 498
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Originally Posted by agisthos View Post

Wasn't it the case that previous Yulong DAC's were poor performers using the SE outputs. They used a cheap Balanced to SE conversion for RCA outputs?

 

Is this the case with the DA8 as well?

 

Nope, I don't think so. Different models have handled their outputs differently but none sounded bad in comparison to balanced. Slightly different in some cases, but never bad. 

post #75 of 498
I haven't owned them all but haven't heard a bad Yulong single ended output yet
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