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LOGITECH UE 900 and thing better?

post #1 of 17
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Hello

 

Guys first post,

 

I purchased LE UE 900 and being using them for 2 days. I'm just wondering if anyone has could recommend anything better if there is? I'm happy with these from a comfort and sound perceptive. 

 

Spec of LE UE 900 

 

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
 
EARPHONE TYPE:In-ear 
  DRIVER TYPE:4 proprietary precision balanced armatures 
  IMPEDANCE:30 ohms, 1 kHz 
  SENSITIVITY:101.2 dB (50mW, 1 kHz) 
  FREQUENCY RESPONSE:20 Hz - 20 kHz 
  NOISE ISOLATION:26 dB 
  CONNECTION:3.5 mm (1/8 inch) gold plated 
  CABLE LENGTHS:48 inch (121.9 cm) 
2-YEAR LIMITED HARDWARE WARRANTY
 
I guess the only one i could find with 4 drivers that compairs is the Sony XBA-4
 
Spec Below
Product Specifications
General
 
Case Type : Carrying Case
Plug : Gold-plated L-type stereo mini plug
Type of Use : Portable
Weights and Measurements
 
Weight (Approx.) : 8 g (0.28 oz) without cord
Audio
 
Driver Unit : Closed, Quad Balanced Armature
Frequency Response : 3 - 28,000 Hz
Impedance : 8 ohms at 1 kHz
Sensitivity (db) : 108 dB/mW
Hardware
 
 
which one do you go for? any other recommendations? 
 
post #2 of 17

The Westone 4, Heir Audio 4Ai, Sony EX1000 are better sounding than UE900, XBA4 with greater clarity and showing more details with good size of soundstage.

post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by HFAUDIOPHILE View Post

The Westone 4, Heir Audio 4Ai, Sony EX1000 are better sounding than UE900, XBA4 with greater clarity and showing more details with good size of soundstage.

 

I'll vouch for the Westone 4 being a step ahead.  I say the Heir Audio is on par with the UE 900 (they trade off strengths).  I never liked the XBA-4, it may be the source, or something else, but I never liked it.  I think Sony changed some things though and offer the XBA-40 now. 

post #4 of 17

Westone 4.  I have not heard the UE900 but from my understanding the Westone 4 is considered at least a little better by most reviews and comments.  I am curious is there anything about the UE900 that you don't like?  Just wondering because you just got them.

 

Edited by faithguy19 - 1/28/13 at 4:35pm
post #5 of 17

Modded UE900 is very very hard to beat. Unmodded, W4 and EX1000 are indeed better. 

post #6 of 17
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Westone 4.  I have not heard the UE900 but from my understanding the Westone 4 is considered at least a little better by most reviews and comments.  I am curious is there anything about the UE900 that you don't like?  Just wondering because you just got them.

 

 

There are a few things I personally don't like.  My main complaints would be the lower treble (although my ears are starting to adjust to it I think) presence as well as a lack of warmth in vocals.  Those would be my main complaints. 

 

As stated, the W4 I still feel is a step above the UE 900. I also feel that the 4.Ai compliments the UE 900 very well. 


Edited by tinyman392 - 1/28/13 at 6:21pm
post #7 of 17

UE900[+pinhole partly closed+33ohms]>W4[+33ohms/Phonak tips]>W4>XBA4 [low OI source]>UE900>Heir 4AI>XBA4 [high OI source]


Edited by Inks - 1/28/13 at 6:44pm
post #8 of 17
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UE900[+pinhole partly closed+33ohms]>W4[+33ohms/Phonak tips]>XBA4 [low OI source]>Heir 4AI>XBA4 [high OI source]

 

I knew you would say this Inks :p  For how you rate IEMs (neutrality), I will agree with your statements.  I "grade" on a different scale though so the W4 is still ahead in my books (you don't have to, and I know you don't, agree with me though). 

post #9 of 17

If budget is not your problem, I would recommend Fitear TG334 (~1350$). IMHO, It's one of the best sound UIEM along with AKG K3003 and Tralucent 1plus2.

 

This baby have warm sound signature and very fun to listen. I also owned TF10 and W4R. It's certainly a step up from UE900. The only drawback for TG334 is availability.  

post #10 of 17
Originally Posted by tinyman392 View Post
I knew you would say this Inks :p  For how you rate IEMs (neutrality), I will agree with your statements.  I "grade" on a different scale though so the W4 is still ahead in my books (you don't have to, and I know you don't, agree with me though). 

Oh, unmodded UE900 will be right above 4AI and unmodded W4 higher than both. I don't rate solely on neutrality, neutrality is a big factor for fidelity though but bandwidth and transients can make or break an IEM as well. MC5 is more neutral than W4, yet I rate far far below it...

 

Have you added resistance and did the partial covering of the vent with tape and needle to the UE900? Treble is smoother than W4 and sounds more airy because you get a better sense of it's reach. Midrange is clearer because of less midbass, bass which is more powerful and extended due to it's depth/rumble. 


Edited by Inks - 1/28/13 at 6:52pm
post #11 of 17
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Oh, unmodded UE900 will be right above 4AI and unmodded W4 higher than both. I don't rate solely on neutrality, neutrality is a big factor for fidelity though but bandwidth and transients can make or break an IEM as well. MC5 is more neutral than W4, yet I rate far far below it...

 

Have you added resistance and did the partial covering of the vent with tape and needle to the UE900? Treble is smoother than W4 and sounds more airy because you get a better sense of it's reach. Midrange is clearer because of less midbass, bass which is more powerful and extended due to it's depth/rumble. 

 

I have added resistance, the UE 900 I have have had their pinhole bore clogged within the first couple of weeks with something with use.  I will agree with everything you said comparing the W4 to UE 900.  The W4, I feel has better bass presence though, as well as a warmth (some describe it as lushness) in the vocals that the UE 900 seems to miss.  Just my experiences between the two.

post #12 of 17

IME partly blocking the hole rather than completely blocking is better. 

post #13 of 17
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IME partly blocking the hole rather than completely blocking is better. 

 

See, the thing is, I don't have a choice how blocked mine gets.  I actually don't know if I only have a partial block or complete as I can't physically see it).  I think oils from my skin as well as ear wax clogged it :p  From the graphs I've seen (between partially block on Tyll's, as well as fully blocked on Rin's), I do have to agree with you :) 

post #14 of 17

There is no published graphs of partly blocking the hole in the method I describe. It looks like completely blocked except bass is bumped below 100hz. 

post #15 of 17
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There is no published graphs of partly blocking the hole in the method I describe. It looks like completely blocked except bass is bumped below 100hz. 

 

Well, we know what unblocked looks like, we also know what fully blocked looks like.  I inferred, that since the graph Tyll had was "in between" both of Rin's for all frequencies, that it would be partially blocked.  Please let me know if you feel otherwise though :p  Maybe we can call Tyll's almost completely blocked ;) IDK :p

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