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post #16 of 43

No offense, but HKD3900 seems a little bit overpriced at that level, there are some better choices in that price range.

post #17 of 43
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Originally Posted by hkppl View Post

No offense, but HKD3900 seems a little bit overpriced at that level, there are some better choices in that price range.


none taken, but you do know shure charge their products higher than most their competitors. 

but the most higher end ones are grado. their earphones have simplistic design and come with limited supply! no case, no accessories, just a couple of ear tips and that's it! oh they do made in japan, so i guess they justify their outrageous price! grado is gear towards classic, elegant and yet simplistic design. shure aims at more modern, punk, and yet ergonomic design! not protruding like those of beats design which i dread!

post #18 of 43

Well...if you loved Shure that much, go ahead and come buy in HK, anyway, we welcome foreigners to come and spend here bigsmile_face.gif


Edited by hkppl - 1/27/13 at 10:04pm
post #19 of 43
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I recently became a Shure buff, I love the simplistic natural tone that reproduced by these buds.

post #20 of 43

LOL! i love reading such threads.

 

i think that among all the subjectivity in high end audiophile equipment, there is 1 fact that all people with ears on earth can agree on is that sound quality vs price is a very steep exponential curve. meaning? it means that a $1200 earphone and $200 earphone might only have 1% difference in sound quality improvement. which probably you wont detect unless you are stationed permanently in the International Space Station(ISS) and nothing but absolute silence all around you to help you discern the differences in sound quality. 

 

and i also think these people are very kind to drop you a very direct hint that you should put your money to better use elsewhere, like good beer and food. dumplings are good. :D lol.

*actually the ISS isnt as quiet as most people think, especially the russian modules but yeah, that example serves it's purpose since most people think of outer space as silent. 


Edited by pokpokgei - 2/4/13 at 9:11am
post #21 of 43
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LOL! i love reading such threads.

 

i think that among all the subjectivity in high end audiophile equipment, there is 1 fact that all people with ears on earth can agree on is that sound quality vs price is a very steep exponential curve. meaning? it means that a $1200 earphone and $200 earphone might only have 1% difference in sound quality improvement. which probably you wont detect unless you are stationed permanently in the International Space Station and nothing but absolute silence all around you to help you discern the differences in sound quality. 

 

and i also think these people are very kind to drop you a very direct hint that you should put your money to better use elsewhere, like good beer and food. dumplings are good. :D lol.


Actually, the difference is vast. You can detect bass is heavy if you quickly swap earphones one after another in matter of seconds. The balanced armature and bass heavy earphone are easier to spot the difference. If both earbuds are balanced armature. then you'll have to spot other ranges like mids, lows or highs. Like I say earlier, I like my music to be as faithfully reproduce as possible through my ear canal. Food makes you fat, earphones might make you deaf. I rather be deaf, then again you will not listen to anything again, but i'm willing to take that chance!


Edited by kfki - 2/3/13 at 10:56pm
post #22 of 43

I think pokpokgei was referring more to the quality of sound when he said "quality vs price is a very steep exponential curve". Bass can be had at any price range from $5 to $xxxxxx; but the quality of sound does not change or improve as much, once you reach a certain price point. I would think the sound quality in a $250 headphone over a $5 headphone would be vast; with that being said, the sound quality in a $500 headphone over a $250 headphone would not produce as big of a difference; hence what's the point to some people. I had $135 BA200s that were, for the price amazing or amazing period. Now I have the W4Rs and though an improvement in sound quality, I don't think big enough to justify the price difference if I was on a stricter budget. If I didn't have the money, the BA200s would of been more than enough and the end all for me until I was able to save and buy something more expensive. Though I guess this is all matter of opinion and subjective to different ears. 

post #23 of 43
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I got the Shure SE535 special edition, and I'm glad I made the purchase. The bass is thicker, lusher, tighter and brighter! The mids, lows and highs are finely tune!

Going back to SE425, the sound will definitely be too 'light' for me!

Anyway I'm happy that I finally own the 535s!
 

post #24 of 43

Congrats! but...

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Like I say earlier, I like my music to be as faithfully reproduce as possible through my ear canal.

^I personally don't think that SE535LTD is the IEM for "faithful music reproduction".

 

Whatever though, congrats again and it's good that you're happy.

post #25 of 43
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Originally Posted by pokpokgei View Post

LOL! i love reading such threads.

 

i think that among all the subjectivity in high end audiophile equipment, there is 1 fact that all people with ears on earth can agree on is that sound quality vs price is a very steep exponential curve. meaning? it means that a $1200 earphone and $200 earphone might only have 1% difference in sound quality improvement. which probably you wont detect unless you are stationed permanently in the International Space Station and nothing but absolute silence all around you to help you discern the differences in sound quality. 

 

and i also think these people are very kind to drop you a very direct hint that you should put your money to better use elsewhere, like good beer and food. dumplings are good. :D lol.

+1 for good Beer....!!  beerchug.gif

post #26 of 43
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Congrats! but...

^I personally don't think that SE535LTD is the IEM for "faithful music reproduction".

 

Whatever though, congrats again and it's good that you're happy.


Hi Deadlovestory, we meet again...

 

Thanks man! I'm enjoying my 535s every minute now. It's just get better and better, although it's brand new. But with 500 hrs plus burn in. The sound will become exquisite and exciting to hear!

 

So if you think SE535LTD is not good enough for your ears, which IEM you think is the one that produce music faithfully?

post #27 of 43
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So if you think SE535LTD is not good enough for your ears, which IEM you think is the one that produce music faithfully?

 

Eh, I'm not saying that SE535LTD is not good enough for my ears, you misunderstood my post. I'm just saying that I wouldn't describe SE535LTD as an IEM that reproduces music faithfully as it's rather "colored"; I'm sure most head-fiers will share my opinion.

 

There are some IEMs that I think are close to "faithful music reproduction" like ER-4S, but if you wanna know if there is any IEM that produces music 100% faithfully in my opinion, the answer is none since all IEM have at least some coloration.

 

Seems to me that you misunderstood a lot posts; I'm pretty sure you misunderstood pokpokgei's last post : 

 

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Originally Posted by pokpokgei View Post

 

i think that among all the subjectivity in high end audiophile equipment, there is 1 fact that all people with ears on earth can agree on is that sound quality vs price is a very steep exponential curve. meaning? it means that a $1200 earphone and $200 earphone might only have 1% difference in sound quality improvement. which probably you wont detect unless you are stationed permanently in the International Space Station and nothing but absolute silence all around you to help you discern the differences in sound quality

 

SOUND QUALITY!

 

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Originally Posted by kfki View Post

Actually, the difference is vast. You can detect bass is heavy if you quickly swap earphones one after another in matter of seconds. The balanced armature and bass heavy earphone are easier to spot the difference. If both earbuds are balanced armature. then you'll have to spot other ranges like mids, lows or highs. Like I say earlier, I like my music to be as faithfully reproduce as possible through my ear canal. Food makes you fat, earphones might make you deaf. I rather be deaf, then again you will not listen to anything again, but i'm willing to take that chance!

 

Bass-heavy and whatnots are sound characteristics/sound signature NOT sound quality! They're different stuff lol.

 

At this point I probably sounds like a know-it-all elitist bloke, but oh wells, at least you're enjoying your SE535LTD and that's good for you.


Edited by Deadlovestory - 2/4/13 at 8:23am
post #28 of 43
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Originally Posted by Deadlovestory View Post

 

Eh, I'm not saying that SE535LTD is not good enough for my ears, you misunderstood my post. I'm just saying that I wouldn't describe SE535LTD as an IEM that reproduces music faithfully as it's rather "colored"; I'm sure most head-fiers will share my opinion.

 

There are some IEMs that I think are close to "faithful music reproduction" like ER-4S, but if you wanna know if there is any IEM that produces music 100% faithfully in my opinion, the answer is none since all IEM have at least some coloration.

 

Seems to me that you misunderstood a lot posts; I'm pretty sure you misunderstood pokpokgei's last post : 

 

 

SOUND QUALITY!

 

Bass-heavy and whatnots are sound characteristics/sound signature NOT sound quality! They're different stuff lol.

 

At this point I probably sounds like a know-it-all elitist bloke, but oh wells, at least you're enjoying your SE535LTD and that's good for you.


Sorry Deadlove story, I didn't read your post carefully and made up my own assumption.  I think 425s lack coloration, which is kinda boring to hear. I suspect that's part of the accurate sound reproduction range in the IEM lineup. In my opinion, an IEM doesn't have any coloration is like a plate of food without having any spice or other ingredients in it. Shure's sound signature stand out its uniqueness! I guess I'm already get used to the Shure sound, which my ears automatically reject them all!

post #29 of 43
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It seems to me that buying any IEM earphone from a particular brand, one must or should buy the flagship model. Because that way, the product has nothing held back.

If you try every model from Shure moving up to 535s. You'll notice the company is saving it for the very best for their flagship model. Now that I own the 535s ltd-j, I feel the product is near perfection.

 

I particularly don't like a company releasing multiple models, because it will cost a cannibalistic effect. I like how Apple release a flagship model of their phone every year, so they offer their very best into a product instead of saving it for the last.


Edited by kfki - 2/5/13 at 6:00am
post #30 of 43
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In my opinion, an IEM doesn't have any coloration is like a plate of food without having any spice or other ingredients in it.

Well it's a matter of personal opinion but I generally tend to like IEMs without too much coloration, barring some exceptions. IEMs with too much coloration is like overly spiced food; it can be overwhelming. Besides, recordings tend to have some "coloration" by default as intended by the producers/musicians, so adding more coloration on top of that is like adding even more spices to food that's already spiced enough.

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Originally Posted by kfki View Post

It seems to me that buying any IEM earphone from a particular brand, one must or should buy the flagship model. Because that way, the product has nothing held back.

If you try every model from Shure moving up to 535s. You'll notice the company is saving it for the very best for their flagship model. Now that I own the 535s ltd-j, I feel the product is near perfection.

I disagree. Flagship model is not always the best offering of a brand, especially when factors such as value-for-money or SQ/price ratio is considered. But even if only SQ is considered, flagship model isn't always the best; here's where personal preferences comes in!

 

I'm sure some people still prefers Westone 3 over the flagship, Westone 4.

A lot of my friends prefers UE TF10 over UE900.

Some prefers Etymotic HF-5 over ER-4S/P

SQ-wise, I prefer Shure SE215 over SE535. I also prefer FitEar F111 over TG!334.

 

I can go on, but I think I've made my point clear enough.

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