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post #1 of 12
1/26/13 at 7:04pm
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Does the c&c bh have a dac in it? I bought one and its being shipped soon. If it doesn't would I be able to use the internal dac of my ipod 5.5 in combination with the c&c bh? Also how would that work using rockbox and a fiio L9 LOD cable?
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post #2 of 12
1/26/13 at 7:08pm

I think the BH is just an amp-no DAC. Even if it has a built in DAC, you could not use it with an iPod. The line out from the LOD bypasses the internal amp, but not the DAC. The only way to use an external DAC is to get digital out, which is not supported on iPods. If you simply plug the iPod into the LOD, and the LOD into the amplifier, you will utilize the iPods internal DAC, and the C&C amplifier.

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post #3 of 12
1/26/13 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by ender323 View Post

I think the BH is just an amp-no DAC. Even if it has a built in DAC, you could not use it with an iPod. The line out from the LOD bypasses the internal amp, but not the DAC. The only way to use an external DAC is to get digital out, which is not supported on iPods. If you simply plug the iPod into the LOD, and the LOD into the amplifier, you will utilize the iPods internal DAC, and the C&C amplifier.
Nice good to finally clarify that thanks, now how do u think this combo will be on sum Logitech UE6000 headphones?
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post #4 of 12
1/26/13 at 7:31pm

Well, I love UE IEMs, but never having heard the 6000s, or a C&C amp, so I can't comment on their combo. UE makes great gear though.

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post #5 of 12
1/26/13 at 7:36pm
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Well, I love UE IEMs, but never having heard the 6000s, or a C&C amp, so I can't comment on their combo. UE makes great gear though.
They're really nice phones, I'm kinda new about all this sound stuff so could you tell me what the primary role of a dac plays on the sound? Also would you say the wolfson dac in the ipod 5.5 is a good one?
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post #6 of 12
1/26/13 at 8:53pm

The iPod classic is one of the better portable players. The Wolfson DAC is pretty darn good.

The DAC is a Digital-to Analog Converter. A higher quality DAC results in a better, cleaner analog signal. The analog signal out of the DAC is then sent into an amplifier, and then your headphones. All of this is done internally with an iPod. If you were to get an external DAC, you would also need an external amp. However, you don't have an option for a digital output on an iPod, so you can't use a DAC with it.

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post #7 of 12
1/26/13 at 9:18pm
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The iPod classic is one of the better portable players. The Wolfson DAC is pretty darn good.
The DAC is a Digital-to Analog Converter. A higher quality DAC results in a better, cleaner analog signal. The analog signal out of the DAC is then sent into an amplifier, and then your headphones. All of this is done internally with an iPod. If you were to get an external DAC, you would also need an external amp. However, you don't have an option for a digital output on an iPod, so you can't use a DAC with it.
So when music clips is that the dac struggling or the amp?
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post #8 of 12
1/26/13 at 9:35pm
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So when music clips is that the dac struggling or the amp?

It's because the amp is struggling. If you are having clipping issues, you can get an LOD, and an amp. That should fix your problems.

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post #9 of 12
1/26/13 at 10:06pm
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It's because the amp is struggling. If you are having clipping issues, you can get an LOD, and an amp. That should fix your problems.
Well I don't have any clipping problems cause I use the prevent clipping option on rockbox, I just want really nice sound and I listen to a lot of metal so clarity is very important
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post #10 of 12
1/26/13 at 10:07pm
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Well I don't have any clipping problems cause I use the prevent clipping option on rockbox, I just want really nice sound and I listen to a lot of metal so clarity is very important

Yeah, an amp will help you. A DAC would be really nice for clarity, but impossible with the iPod.

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post #11 of 12
1/26/13 at 10:40pm
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Yeah, an amp will help you. A DAC would be really nice for clarity, but impossible with the iPod.
Well how do u think that specific wolfson compares to an external dac in terms of performance. I mean compared to an average external dac
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post #12 of 12
1/27/13 at 6:57am
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Well how do u think that specific wolfson compares to an external dac in terms of performance. I mean compared to an average external dac

An external DAC will undeniably be better than the onboard. The cheapest way I know of to use an external DAC is this-

http://www.amazon.com/HRT-iStreamer-Outboard-DAC-iDevices/dp/B004H5UYLO

For $200. It gives you two RCA outs-one for right channel, one for left. You then will need an amplifier. Either get one that accepts RCA in, or a dual-RCA male to male 3.5mm cable-Monoprice has them for under $5. You could use the cable+a FiiO amp, for example, or go straight from the RCA out to a Schiit Magni. Just an example, the Magni requires a wall outlet, not the best for portable use.

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