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I am looking for comparisons from those who own both an STX or Titanium HD and a bifrost or gungnir.  I currently own both an STX and a Titanium HD (currently using HD) and am contemplating whether a DAC upgrade would be worth it.  

 

So if you have both or you own the soundcard and an external dac comparable to those listed, could you please provide your experiences and thoughts?

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I am looking for comparisons from those who own both an STX or Titanium HD and a bifrost or gungnir.  I currently own both an STX and a Titanium HD (currently using HD) and am contemplating whether a DAC upgrade would be worth it.  

 

So if you have both or you own the sound card and an external DAC comparable to those listed, could you please provide your experiences and thoughts?

I'm assuming your planning hooking up this external DAC to the Titanium HD's S/PDIF output?

What, if any, external headphone amplifier are you using with the Titanium HD?

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Lyr
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Lyr

As I've never used an external DAC that cost more then $100 (made in China), I'm not sure what to advise.....but.

One way to improve audio quality would be to buy "better" op-amps for the TiHD (Titanium HD).

Maybe replace the two JRC2114 dual channel op-amps with four LME49710 TO-99 single channel op-amps.

There might be better choices for op-amps, but I'm not sure what other op-amps work with the TiHD.

 

Might try asking on this thread about Schiit DAC Bifrost/Gungnir DACs.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/545842/schiit-dacs-bifrost-and-gungnir-down-one-to-go-the-information-and-anticipation-thread

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I am looking for comparisons from those who own both an STX or Titanium HD and a bifrost or gungnir.  I currently own both an STX and a Titanium HD (currently using HD) and am contemplating whether a DAC upgrade would be worth it.  

 

So if you have both or you own the soundcard and an external dac comparable to those listed, could you please provide your experiences and thoughts?

 

Heya,

 

The DAC's on the STX/HD are good. I wouldn't throw a few hundred into a new DAC if you're plugging into a Lyr unless you just want a new box to look at.

 

What headphones are we talking ?

 

Very best,

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K702 & HE-400. 

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K702 & HE-400. 

 

A DAC change will result in rather minimal differences, if any are even noticeable, for what you're doing.

 

What kind of change are you looking for? Is there a sonic trait you're trying to bring out or capture or emphasize?

 

Very best,

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The upgrade in DAC is too minimal or the headphones I use aren't good enough to really notice a difference?

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The upgrade in DAC is too minimal

 

Heya,

 

Well, let's just say that there are people who will claim there's a night & day difference between some DAC's. And others that will claim that there's really minimal differences if any after a certain point with DACs. It's your money, so you get to find out first hand.

 

Lots of devices have the same DAC chipset as much more expensive devices. The big differences is mainly components and the big one is power supply. The DAC of the STX/HD are actually quite good DAC's. You can get better components and a way better power supply of course. But I don't think a $400~700 DAC purchase is going to make a big impact for you. I think you would do well to side-grade to a stand-alone DAC, sure, but I can't help but think how the money you're about to spend on just a DAC could be money that puts you onto a flagship headphone that would make a much bigger impact on your listening experience, like an LCD2, HE500, T1, HD800, etc.

 

Ultimately I think if you're going to change DACs, I would start simple and see if it makes a difference for you. Like a JDS ODAC, Music Streamer II, Schiit Modi, TubeMagic D2, etc.

 

Very best,

post #10 of 10
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You've been a lot of help.  Thanks!

 

I think I will start saving up for the LCD-2 and pick up a cheaper DAC if I find the need.  

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