or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphone Amps › JDS Labs C5/C5D (pg96) portable amp/amp+DAC
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

JDS Labs C5/C5D (pg96) portable amp/amp+DAC - Page 69

post #1021 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by D K A View Post

I had this amp since last month and this amp just blow out my mind

how can this $200 amp sound as good as my $450 amp

and the bass boost just amazing, they gives the right amount of bass and don't mess up the music
 

 

Speaking of which , It makes my M-100 vibrates physically ! when I turn the bass boost on .. dt880smile.png

post #1022 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by grandmike View Post

 

Speaking of which , It makes my M-100 vibrates physically ! when I turn the bass boost on .. dt880smile.png


Haha i got the same situation but with my MDR-1R , i think M-100 bass better than my mdr

post #1023 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by D K A View Post


Apex glacier it's more transparent but the C5 bass boost just blow out my mind

Also, you can get 2 and-a-half C5s for the price of one Apex Glacier...
post #1024 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by gkanai View Post


Also, you can get 2 and-a-half C5s for the price of one Apex Glacier...


Haha of course, Actually i bought apex for ak 100 but later on i realized that international was made for ak 100

post #1025 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by Divine33 View Post

I would need a few more comparisons between C5 and C421 AD8620. Anyone? :-)

 

the c5 is better all around imo. although i would have to say if you have a brighter pair of iem's like the se535 that are mid forward, the slight bump in the mids could possibly push for congestion between the mids and highs.

 

the c421 ad8620 seems to have some more refinement in sound imo but the c5 is just better all around imo.

post #1026 of 3342

been using C5 for couple months with ipod classic 7th gen and SE535s.    As new to the audiophile world I have little to compare against but really enjoying better sound going into my ears.   The C5 is a well made piece of kit that looks just fine paired with the ipod.    I am looking into a DAC to add to setup (possibly CLAS -r) as feel there is still better refinement to be had.  Will keep posted on combo if and when get. 

post #1027 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerrys30 View Post

been using C5 for couple months with ipod classic 7th gen and SE535s.    As new to the audiophile world I have little to compare against but really enjoying better sound going into my ears.   The C5 is a well made piece of kit that looks just fine paired with the ipod.    I am looking into a DAC to add to setup (possibly CLAS -r) as feel there is still better refinement to be had.  Will keep posted on combo if and when get. 

Speaking of DACs, JDS Labs posted this on their blog:

http://blog.jdslabs.com/?p=612

 

I don't quite agree with the iPod DAC part as I do think an external DAC can help (i.e. iPhone + C5 doesn't sound like ODAC+C5), but for mobile use, I don't think the extra price is worth it; similar to how I don't think a $500+ USD earphone is worth it just for mobile use (most of the audio quality benefits you'll get are diminished with extra background noise anyway). But that's just me.

post #1028 of 3342
Thanks for the link will have a good read. I can say that the current setup is a huge improvement over how I have been listening. I guess I have just been introduced to a world I didn't really know existed and now want to try it all and see how good it can get......
Plus living in Hong Kong now I can't make use of separates I used in UK so mobile unit also doubles as home too!!
post #1029 of 3342

i donno if the C5 would Synergise that well with the new clas -R.  knowing the sound of the clas and the C5, i think the C5 is slightly bright and the akm chip might make the whole system sound sterile.

 

thats just my opinion... i think the original clas might have better synergy but not sure.

post #1030 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Speaking of DACs, JDS Labs posted this on their blog:

http://blog.jdslabs.com/?p=612

 

I don't quite agree with the iPod DAC part as I do think an external DAC can help (i.e. iPhone + C5 doesn't sound like ODAC+C5), but for mobile use, I don't think the extra price is worth it; similar to how I don't think a $500+ USD earphone is worth it just for mobile use (most of the audio quality benefits you'll get are diminished with extra background noise anyway). But that's just me.

 

Keep in mind those iPod paragraphs are direct quotes from NwAvGuy's blog. I wrote this article after so many people lately have begged for more info on the subject.

 

I'm thrilled with the DAC + C5 on my desk. Most often, customers on a budget do not need to spend inordinate amounts of money on a DAC when you can get excellent performance from headphones and an amp. A DAC usually provides the smallest change to your audio chain. Around 1% of ODAC customers have actually returned ODAC because they couldn't hear a difference--they stuck with their original source. So, I'd rather see those folks make better informed decisions from the start (everyone wins). That was the point of the blog post. Did I miss it?

Reply
post #1031 of 3342

No I think you nailed it, and yes that part about the iPod DACs was from NwAvGuy. It was a good read. I definitely think the DAC makes some difference in the audio chain, but it is probably the second to last thing one should upgrade unless the DAC is just plain bad (i.e. in a Nintendo 3DS). The last thing people usually change is the cable.

 


On another note, relating to the aluminum blog entry, my ODAC's enclosure is slightly bowed as was shown in your blog:

 

 

and my C5 actually has a few non-anodised bare spots on the inside of the aluminum enclosure (these was here when I first opened it up but I never mentioned it since it's not a big deal to me):

 

 

 

same side but on the top of the inside:

 


Edited by miceblue - 6/1/13 at 3:47pm
post #1032 of 3342
I managed to get some time with a few dacs after visiting jaben audio (very helpful and patient). I tried the CLAS -r. A fostex and a couple others....will try and get model details next time go. To be honest I was expecting to hear some real magic happening.....really not sure what I was expecting.....guess I was hoping for too much!! I didn't really hear much difference from the short tests. Now I understand this could be my ears...music used....cables......well, too many variables. Jaben did show me some cables available to replace stock se535 one and I definitely heard a change and music seemed more open and clearer. Fortunately I tried 2 cables. The first was an obvious improvement but then tried the second and couldn't hear a change. Luckily and unbeknown to me the first was the entry level (sa-01) and the last was the high end one.....so ordered sa-01 and will spend some time listening before thinking I need to look at the next part of the chain......
post #1033 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerrys30 View Post

I managed to get some time with a few dacs after visiting jaben audio (very helpful and patient). I tried the CLAS -r. A fostex and a couple others....will try and get model details next time go. To be honest I was expecting to hear some real magic happening.....really not sure what I was expecting.....guess I was hoping for too much!! I didn't really hear much difference from the short tests. Now I understand this could be my ears...music used....cables......well, too many variables. Jaben did show me some cables available to replace stock se535 one and I definitely heard a change and music seemed more open and clearer. Fortunately I tried 2 cables. The first was an obvious improvement but then tried the second and couldn't hear a change. Luckily and unbeknown to me the first was the entry level (sa-01) and the last was the high end one.....so ordered sa-01 and will spend some time listening before thinking I need to look at the next part of the chain......

I haven't tried the Cypher Labs Algorithm Solo before, but I wouldn't expect an iPod DAC to make a huge difference either. There's mostly a soundstage and instrument separation difference between my iPhone + line out dock + C5 and MacBook Pro + ODAC + C5.

 

Cables? I don't believe in expensive cables, but I found that silver cables do sound different from copper, to my surprise. I don't think silver cables would pair well with the C5 though.

Off-Topic Video about Silver Cables (Click to show)

post #1034 of 3342
Quote:
Originally Posted by kerrys30 View Post

I managed to get some time with a few dacs after visiting jaben audio (very helpful and patient). I tried the CLAS -r. A fostex and a couple others....will try and get model details next time go. To be honest I was expecting to hear some real magic happening.....really not sure what I was expecting.....guess I was hoping for too much!! I didn't really hear much difference from the short tests. Now I understand this could be my ears...music used....cables......well, too many variables. Jaben did show me some cables available to replace stock se535 one and I definitely heard a change and music seemed more open and clearer. Fortunately I tried 2 cables. The first was an obvious improvement but then tried the second and couldn't hear a change. Luckily and unbeknown to me the first was the entry level (sa-01) and the last was the high end one.....so ordered sa-01 and will spend some time listening before thinking I need to look at the next part of the chain......

I know this isn't scientific, but using my c5 from my ipod touch line out sounds almost identical to using my duet interface, which sounds the same as using my denon avr995. If there is a difference (i "think" the duet sounds the best) i cant really tell for sure. So its pretty darn small.
post #1035 of 3342
Thanks miceblue. It's nice to hear of similar setups and experience.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Portable Headphone Amps
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphone Amps › JDS Labs C5/C5D (pg96) portable amp/amp+DAC