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post #16 of 108
1/24/13 at 2:58pm
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Lets not all get our panties bunched up.   I've read a few responses from Mal that sounded a bit harsh.  I even called him out on it once,  then I've come to realize that is just how he speaks, he doesn't sugar coat a damn thing.   Overall every response seems to be pertaining to the thread at hand, and is genuinely trying to help the OP.

 

I think his recommendation is pretty spot on.   If you can't get the sound you like in stock from, he has good suggestions for tailoring something to the OP's taste.   

 

Mal, I will have a beer tonight in your honor!   cheers!

 

Pretty much this; no disrespect or anything meant. I figure if someone wants advice on how to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars, they want the bottom line and not some beating-around-the-bush "maybe's."

 

Very best,

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post #17 of 108
1/24/13 at 4:40pm
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Pretty much this; no disrespect or anything meant. I figure if someone wants advice on how to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars, they want the bottom line and not some beating-around-the-bush "maybe's."

Very best,

Of course buddy, I like the headphone advice.

As for djing. I should have been more specific. I do a blend of mixing/monitoring/djing in my house. When I come home it is too late to crank the speakers up. But what I am looking for is as fun of a sound as possible. I'm wanting to hear more recomendations from people in general. I may give the 770 a shot. I'm not a fan of the house sound of ultrasones in general. I'm leaning towards a more fun sounding can that can go loud without distortion. (With as much bass as possible.) I've got other cans/iems that are more neutral, and I love the sound. However, sometimes I want a can that can 'almost' sound like speakers on my head. Most 'dj' cans just go loud and sound bad at higher levels.
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post #18 of 108
1/24/13 at 4:40pm
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Originally Posted by MalVeauX View Post

Pretty much this; no disrespect or anything meant. I figure if someone wants advice on how to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars, they want the bottom line and not some beating-around-the-bush "maybe's."

Very best,

Of course buddy, I like the headphone advice.

As for djing. I should have been more specific. I do a blend of mixing/monitoring/djing in my house. When I come home it is too late to crank the speakers up. But what I am looking for is as fun of a sound as possible. I'm wanting to hear more recomendations from people in general. I may give the 770 a shot. I'm not a fan of the house sound of ultrasones in general. I'm leaning towards a more fun sounding can that can go loud without distortion. (With as much bass as possible.) I've got other cans/iems that are more neutral, and I love the sound. However, sometimes I want a can that can 'almost' sound like speakers on my head. Most 'dj' cans just go loud and sound bad at higher levels.
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post #19 of 108
1/24/13 at 4:43pm
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I have a feeling I'll be passing on the akg267s.
Leaning towards maddogs, he400, dt770...and any other recommendations fellow hf's may post.
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post #20 of 108
1/24/13 at 4:51pm
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I have a feeling I'll be passing on the akg267s.
Leaning towards maddogs, he400, dt770...and any other recommendations fellow hf's may post.

HE400 are open, so no-go. Mad Dogs are very neutral, and the DT770 have nice slam. Out of those, DT770 fits the bill the best. And also, I hear the Mad Dogs need a very powerful amp.

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post #21 of 108
1/24/13 at 5:11pm

Did you find the Pro900 lacking in bass or did you just not like the other qualities of the headphone?

If it's the former you are really not going to be satisfied with the DT770. I have both of them right now and the DT770 doesn't even compare in terms of bass. It has less quality, quantity, and impact.

To go on a bit of a tangent here, I have to say that overall I was completely disappointed with the DT770. They get a ton of love here and around the internet as being great "fun" basshead headphones but I just found them lackluster in pretty much all areas, but most especially in the quality of the bass. Some songs in my collection sound like a muddy mess that I can't stand to listen to. 

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post #22 of 108
1/24/13 at 6:02pm
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The search for headphones...I feel like its never going to end. Mixing in headphones is like masturbation...it isn't wrong, only frowned up. It doesn't matter if the headphones are closed or open, but looking at what it takes to drive open headphones, it seems like I'll need a lot more power. Recently, I tested the 770s and the 900s together at B&H, aside from the noise and people/traffic walking by I wasn't too impressed and didn't hear too much of a difference. I also owned the 900s about an year ago. Since then, I've been satisfying my audio cravings with iems. It is harder for me to find a more enjoyable full sized headphone. I like the hd600s when I'm listening to music other than house-edm. Someone recommended maddogs on another forum. I figure anything is worth trying out, but eventually I would like to stop this headphone hunt and not buy headphones for a long, long time. (Probably not realistic if I hang around this forum.) smily_headphones1.gif
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post #23 of 108
1/24/13 at 6:05pm
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I felt like the highs were a bit fatiguing on the 900s. I also thought there was something missing in the sound spectrum of the 900s. It sounded off compared to what I've always experienced.
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post #24 of 108
1/24/13 at 9:07pm
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Did you find the Pro900 lacking in bass or did you just not like the other qualities of the headphone?


If it's the former you are really not going to be satisfied with the DT770. I have both of them right now and the DT770 doesn't even compare in terms of bass. It has less quality, quantity, and impact.


To go on a bit of a tangent here, I have to say that overall I was completely disappointed with the DT770. They get a ton of love here and around the internet as being great "fun" basshead headphones but I just found them lackluster in pretty much all areas, but most especially in the quality of the bass. Some songs in my collection sound like a muddy mess that I can't stand to listen to. 

Perhaps your dt770 weren't properly amped. I can't understand how they could ever seem lackluster in the bass department?

OP If your mixing at home and ambient noise isn't an issue while your already trying the Beyerdynamic DT770 I would urge you to also try the DT990- skip the flatter 880 it's clearly not for you.
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post #25 of 108
1/24/13 at 9:21pm

IMO, you are missing out if you don't try the V-Moda M-100 for overall fantastic SQ along with tight, powerful and deep bass.  Also, I just ordered the NuForce HP-800 but haven't heard them yet.  They aren't the best looking headphones, but early reviews on their sound are excellent.
 

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post #26 of 108
1/24/13 at 9:44pm
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[...] I'm not a fan of the house sound of ultrasones in general. I'm leaning towards a more fun sounding can that can go loud without distortion. [...]

 

That's interesting... 'a fun sounding can that can go loud without distortion' is exactly how I would describe Ultrasones. ;)

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post #27 of 108
1/24/13 at 9:58pm

Seriously, think about the 419's. They are closed backed and could be used for dj work because they let you actually hear what you're listening to, they are also much more sensitive than the 770 and higher end cans. If bass is what you want, how can you beat an almost 12db boost from 30 to 100hz? If you did that on an equalizer it would sound terrible and over driven, but doing it acousticly it sounds punchy, full, and none of that one note bass stuff, it flows smoothly through each octave. If it's the price that is ruling them out for you, ask yourself what a $200 pair of 770's are going to get you compared to the HD419's for your needs....

 

If you really want to go the $200 some odd route, check out the Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro's. They are closed backed, and have adjustable bass ports on both cans allowing you to dial in as much bass as you wish, it's like modding your headphones at the flick of a switch. I have'nt personally listened to them though so I can only recommend the Sennheiser HD419's.

 

Just to give you an idea where I'm coming from, I have the Q701's DT880 250ohm, I know good sound, and I still use the 419's when I want to listen loud, with in my face bass, and un-fatiguing highs.
 

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post #28 of 108
1/25/13 at 7:03am
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Thanks for good replies guys. Hi Craigster, I've tried the m100s but they don't have the punch and spl I desire. Am I going deaf? I've been browsing and searching as well for other options. What do you guys think about the pro700mk2? I'm going to look into the 419s Kodhifi, it sounds like that may be what I'm looking for. I'm surprised I've never heard, but I'm happy you got word out. Much appreciated! I may also give ultrasones another shot.

I want to feel like I am in the "middle of the dancefloor" type of sound is what I'm looking for. I do like to crank my headphones up. I would like to minimize eq'ing or adding any additional amping...if possible.
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post #29 of 108
1/25/13 at 7:05am
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Thanks for good replies guys. Hi Craigster, I've tried the m100s but they don't have the punch and spl I desire. Am I going deaf? I've been browsing and searching as well for other options. What do you guys think about the pro700mk2? I'm going to look into the 419s Kodhifi, it sounds like that may be what I'm looking for. I'm surprised I've never heard, but I'm happy you got word out. Much appreciated! I may also give ultrasones another shot.

I want to feel like I am in the "middle of the dancefloor" type of sound is what I'm looking for. I do like to crank my headphones up. I would like to minimize eq'ing or adding any additional amping...if possible.


check out the just posted review of the NuForce HP-800.  I just ordered one.

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post #30 of 108
1/25/13 at 7:11am
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Considering your involvement in the forums and headphone history, I'm interested in what you are interested in.
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