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post #721 of 1201
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

OK whew...

yeah I was told by Gavin at Light Harmonic that its going to be competitively prices against products like the MS - 

as he knows my love for the microStreamer!!

 

BTW - using the microStreamer w/ these new, upcoming Monster DNA Pro over-ear headphones (that are surprisingly musical and engaging,

not to mention downright FUN) and the combo is splendid!

 

I put the MS up against the Dragonfly again recently - and the MS breathed so nicely, comparatively, and it had such sparkle - it wasn't nearly

as close I remembered it! The MS out-performed it in every way.  

 

I'd LOVE to see a battery-powered solution from HRT!

post #722 of 1201
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Originally Posted by mikemercer View Post
 

yeah I was told by Gavin at Light Harmonic that its going to be competitively prices against products like the MS - 

as he knows my love for the microStreamer!!

 

BTW - using the microStreamer w/ these new, upcoming Monster DNA Pro over-ear headphones (that are surprisingly musical and engaging,

not to mention downright FUN) and the combo is splendid!

 

I put the MS up against the Dragonfly again recently - and the MS breathed so nicely, comparatively, and it had such sparkle - it wasn't nearly

as close I remembered it! The MS out-performed it in every way.  

 

I'd LOVE to see a battery-powered solution from HRT!

 

i just ordered a dragonfly yesterday since i saw your previous impression comparting them. now i think i might have to return it when it is delivered if the MS beat it that easy this time. is it better by a good margin all the way from lows to highs?


Edited by kenshinhimura - 12/21/13 at 3:42pm
post #723 of 1201
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Originally Posted by kenshinhimura View Post

i just ordered a dragonfly yesterday since i saw your previous impression comparting them. now i think i might have to return it when it is delivered if the MS beat it that easy this time. is it better by a good margin all the way from lows to highs?
I am of no experience that mike is with audio components, but I've had a MS for two months now, and picked up a dragonfly at best buy for $100 on tuesday. It is going back by the Jan 15 return deadline. Super low volume output (by comparison, and trying to power HD700s), don't like that it sits right in the usb port, and I agree it isn't as enjoyable to listen to my mostly alt rock as the MS.
Dragonfly got clearance to $100 and has a revision for a reason I suppose. Because the competition has made it not worth its 250 price. Worth 100? I guess I don't really know. I haven't heard enough products to see, nor do I have that sort of experience. But even if I had a return option for my microstreamer to get my 180 back, I'd still return the dragonfly and get the 100 back I paid for it.

Also, the microstreamer is awesome with Verizon Note 3, so that keeps me happy.
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Originally Posted by mikemercer View Post
 

yeah I was told by Gavin at Light Harmonic that its going to be competitively prices against products like the MS - 

as he knows my love for the microStreamer!!

 

BTW - using the microStreamer w/ these new, upcoming Monster DNA Pro over-ear headphones (that are surprisingly musical and engaging,

not to mention downright FUN) and the combo is splendid!

 

I put the MS up against the Dragonfly again recently - and the MS breathed so nicely, comparatively, and it had such sparkle - it wasn't nearly

as close I remembered it! The MS out-performed it in every way.  

 

I'd LOVE to see a battery-powered solution from HRT!

 

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Originally Posted by kenshinhimura View Post
 

 

i just ordered a dragonfly yesterday since i saw your previous impression comparting them. now i think i might have to return it when it is delivered if the MS beat it that easy this time. is it better by a good margin all the way from lows to highs?

 

i forgot to mention i was only going to use the dac section of it, so i'm not worried about them powering headphones direct.

post #725 of 1201
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i forgot to mention i was only going to use the dac section of it, so i'm not worried about them powering headphones direct.

AH - I'm glad you followed up with this, as the amp section has a huge impact on the sound. This comes down to taste, and I wholeheartedly believe that. ALL of these reactions. Forget about "objectivists" vs. "subjectivists" - what many refuse to point out is that we all bring our own life-induced biases with us!

 

-Just thought I should say that-

 

Now, if you're merely using the MS or Dragonfly as a DAC: I would still pick the MS; even though they seemed closer before. I'd pick it because, to my ears, the Dragonfly has a more linear sonic curvature/presentation. The microStreamer via line-out sounds a bit more excitable and charged - the energy and dynamics are authoritative. Sometimes I put that lil DAC in front of amps costing $1,000 and up!!

 

Though you might prefer a more linear sound!

And that's totally cool too

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Originally Posted by mikemercer View Post
 

AH - I'm glad you followed up with this, as the amp section has a huge impact on the sound. This comes down to taste, and I wholeheartedly believe that. ALL of these reactions. Forget about "objectivists" vs. "subjectivists" - what many refuse to point out is that we all bring our own life-induced biases with us!

 

-Just thought I should say that-

 

Now, if you're merely using the MS or Dragonfly as a DAC: I would still pick the MS; even though they seemed closer before. I'd pick it because, to my ears, the Dragonfly has a more linear sonic curvature/presentation. The microStreamer via line-out sounds a bit more excitable and charged - the energy and dynamics are authoritative. Sometimes I put that lil DAC in front of amps costing $1,000 and up!!

 

Though you might prefer a more linear sound!

And that's totally cool too


thanks Mike. i am definitely a fan of energy to the sound. i will most likely exchange it for the microstreamer since i might use the Mad Dog on the go sometimes. i'll give the dragonfly a listen in the mean time since it will still take about a week+ to get the microstreamer shipped.

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Will the Microstreamer work natively with the Galaxy Note 3 in all applications, as it did with the 2?

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Will the Microstreamer work natively with the Galaxy Note 3 in all applications, as it did with the 2?
yes, I believe. I have a Verizon Note 3, and the system notifications, system sounds, etc all go out to the MS. Please note tho, that the signal is up converted to 48khz. So your 44.1khz is upcpnverted. But 88.2 and 96 comes out as is original. But if you listen to mostly 44.1 content, you may want to do more research to see how this affects your preferences. This may be an intrinsic android limitation tho. I have yet to learn.

Also, it is my research proven experience that the digitally controlled analog attenuation does not function with android. So basically, when you connect the hrt to the phone, the hrt is in 100% amp output, and is volume controlled by the DIGITAL signal, I.e. bits of information are lost unless you are at 100% volume on the phone.

For this reason, I line out from the MS into the fiio e12 I have. I set the phone to max volume. I then volume control with the e12 pot to my HD700. That is just a purist's view. Others may be able to get past the OCD of not having "all of it" and able to just use the HRT MS headphone port from an Android smartphone. Again, my observations from a VERIZON Note 3.
Edited by kayza - 12/22/13 at 3:20pm
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thanks Mike. i am definitely a fan of energy to the sound. i will most likely exchange it for the microstreamer since i might use the Mad Dog on the go sometimes. i'll give the dragonfly a listen in the mean time since it will still take about a week+ to get the microstreamer shipped.

AWESOME!

I don't think you'll regret it!

 

Used my MS to drive my new Audeze LCD-XC's this morning

(LOVE the better efficiency of the X and XC):

Sounded TERRIFIC!!

post #730 of 1201

so my dragonfly came in a few hours ago and i really like it so far. microstreamer must really be something to sound better. depending if i have the extra funds, i might just hang on to this.

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Mike, (or anyone else for that matter), do you have any idea why my MS no longer seems to function as an amp when paired with iPhone or ipad? There is now no real amplification over the actual devices output. This has been the case since updating the software for mobile compatibility. It now works with each device but seemingly only as a dac. In other words, the headphone out has no additional volume advantage over the device and when I switch back and forth between the MS HO and the Idevice's HO, they seem to be the same volume. Was this how they achieved the compatibility by significantly lowering volume output.......or is this perhaps a faulty device? I have also noticed that the output on a MacBook Pro (although obviously amplified) is less than a PC. Huh? Any help or ideas would be appreciated! Happy Holidays!
post #732 of 1201
Well if you think about it, the LO probably isn't designed to feed any more power to an external device than it can feed to its own internal components, so the amp in the mS just isn't done full justice by the I phone's line out power output. That would be my guess, anyways.
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Originally Posted by neuromancer View Post

Mike, (or anyone else for that matter), do you have any idea why my MS no longer seems to function as an amp when paired with iPhone or ipad? There is now no real amplification over the actual devices output. This has been the case since updating the software for mobile compatibility. It now works with each device but seemingly only as a dac. In other words, the headphone out has no additional volume advantage over the device and when I switch back and forth between the MS HO and the Idevice's HO, they seem to be the same volume. Was this how they achieved the compatibility by significantly lowering volume output.......or is this perhaps a faulty device? I have also noticed that the output on a MacBook Pro (although obviously amplified) is less than a PC. Huh? Any help or ideas would be appreciated! Happy Holidays!
post #733 of 1201
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Originally Posted by neuromancer View Post

Mike, (or anyone else for that matter), do you have any idea why my MS no longer seems to function as an amp when paired with iPhone or ipad? There is now no real amplification over the actual devices output. This has been the case since updating the software for mobile compatibility. It now works with each device but seemingly only as a dac. In other words, the headphone out has no additional volume advantage over the device and when I switch back and forth between the MS HO and the Idevice's HO, they seem to be the same volume. Was this how they achieved the compatibility by significantly lowering volume output.......or is this perhaps a faulty device? I have also noticed that the output on a MacBook Pro (although obviously amplified) is less than a PC. Huh? Any help or ideas would be appreciated! Happy Holidays!


You might check the line out on the iPhone.  Some years ago I had an iPod Classic with only 1 volt on the line out instead of the usual 2. I ran it into an amp that needed to be cranked quite a bit more with the iPod than the CD player.

post #734 of 1201
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Originally Posted by neuromancer View Post

Mike, (or anyone else for that matter), do you have any idea why my MS no longer seems to function as an amp when paired with iPhone or ipad? There is now no real amplification over the actual devices output. This has been the case since updating the software for mobile compatibility. It now works with each device but seemingly only as a dac. In other words, the headphone out has no additional volume advantage over the device and when I switch back and forth between the MS HO and the Idevice's HO, they seem to be the same volume. Was this how they achieved the compatibility by significantly lowering volume output.......or is this perhaps a faulty device? I have also noticed that the output on a MacBook Pro (although obviously amplified) is less than a PC. Huh? Any help or ideas would be appreciated! Happy Holidays!

You're using a CCK-USB to the microStreamer from the iPad?

post #735 of 1201

merry christmas mike. i was wondering if you would recommend the geek dac over the microstreamer from what you remember of the sound signature. have a chance to get in on the geek pulse and i'm sure the dac section will be the same from geek pulse and geek out.

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