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post #496 of 1013

According HRT's CTO, Kevin Halverson, the microStreamer is not compatible with the iPhone, due to an absence of 'host mode' in the iPhone iOS version, although it works with the iPad, all versions, including iOS 7 I can personally confirm. Logically where a given bitstream is coming from: an iPad or a Mac, should make no sonic difference. Also, FYI, from Kevin's perspective neither does the brand and cost of the connecting cable, assuming it is mechanically sound.  Just FYI./

post #497 of 1013

Thanks, pnoble, for the answer!

post #498 of 1013

My pleasure, but mostly parroting the man who should really know! One more insight from Kevin: there is no sonic benefit whatsoever from  breaking in his or any other electron (versus mechanical) device. All in the head. Sounds logical to me, but as the designer of possibly the sonically very best device of its kind, I would anyhow defer to the fellow!

post #499 of 1013
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Originally Posted by jazzman7 View Post
 

Folks, the microStreamer now works with any iPhone or iPod Touch running iOS 7 through the Camera Connection Kit.  This was rumored (in this thread I think), and I downloaded iOS 7 today to an iPhone 4 to test it out.

 

Works great!  Sonic goodness just got a heck of a lot smaller...

 

 

EDIT:  Tested with iPhone 4 running iOS 7 and the 30-pin CCK.  I'm assuming that the Lightning CCK works similarly with an iPhone 5 or newer iPod Touch.  I'll check the Lightning version when we have an iPhone 5 in the house on Friday.  

 

This seems to refute what you're saying, pnoble.

post #500 of 1013

There does seem to be conflicting information on what works, and on what "works" means.  

 

In the iOS7 and CCK thread elsewhere on head-fi, I posted about investigations with the microStreamer and two iPhones (4 and 5c) both running iOS7.  I found that I hear clean output with files at 44.1kHz and 48kHz sampling, but playback at 24bit/96kHz through iTunes streaming stutters.

 

What "works" is open to debate, as some things might be happening strangely with the iPhone and the microStreamer that are somehow inaudible to me even with extensive listening.  I can't guarantee that what I have heard is sample-perfect and bit-perfect.  But, I can attest that I have listened to the following setup -- iPhone 4 running iOS 7, CCK, and microStreamer with line out to a Fiio E12 and ATH-ESW9 headphones -- for a couple of hours, and I heard only glorious audio at 44.1kHz.  No pops, clicks, or other weirdness.  

 

As always on head-fi, try it and see!

post #501 of 1013
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Originally Posted by pnoble View Post

According HRT's CTO, Kevin Halverson, the microStreamer is not compatible with the iPhone, due to an absence of 'host mode' in the iPhone iOS version, although it works with the iPad, all versions, including iOS 7 I can personally confirm. Logically where a given bitstream is coming from: an iPad or a Mac, should make no sonic difference. Also, FYI, from Kevin's perspective neither does the brand and cost of the connecting cable, assuming it is mechanically sound.  Just FYI./

This response must be out of date. Host Mode is present in the iPhone in iOS 7—at least it works for the microStreamer with iPhone 5 and the Apple CCK; I haven't tried a keyboard or MIDI device yet.
post #502 of 1013

^^^  Definitely.  I am running from my iPhone right now.

post #503 of 1013

hi,

could you give me some advice for a good jack to rca cable to use with microstreamer? not to expensive

by the way The microstreamer is great with phillips Fidelio x1!! :)

The sound seems to be better when i plug the microstreamer to my pc than my xperia Z.

Did anyone also notice that difference ? android vs pc ?

maybe not enought power from the phone but still sound better with the microstreamer than direct output from the xperia jack.    


Edited by cedou97yon - 9/28/13 at 10:03am
post #504 of 1013
Keep telling myself I need to get a CCK to try with my 4G iTouch (last of the 30-pin models), but keep putting it off as I know a little switch will be pushed that has me ordering an iPad in the same browser session ...... frown.gif
post #505 of 1013

Hey all. I want to ask about the ZO2 and Microstreamer used in conjunction.

 

I got the HRT Microstreamer a while ago, and while it has some pros (clarity, highs extension), it is downright bass anemic imo. Point is, I need more bass. 

 

I was thinking of something like this 

 

PC >>> HRT Microstreamer >>> ZO2 >>>> Sig DJ

 

My question is, would this setup be idiotic? From ClieOS's sub-$200 shootout, the ZO2 is one of the worst sounding amps in this group. So, would it be stupid to use the Microstreamer as a DAC only, and use the ZO2 as bass boost?

 

The intention is to maintain the positive qualities of the Microstreamer and add bass, but I am thinking I would lose the clarity from the Microstreamer if I use it as DAC only.

post #506 of 1013

Erod, are you using the uS with a dedicated headphone amp ?

post #507 of 1013
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
 

Erod, are you using the uS with a dedicated headphone amp ?

 

No, I am using the microstreamer as both DAc and amp. What attracted me in the first place was to have both in a portable package.

post #508 of 1013
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by erod View Post
 

Hey all. I want to ask about the ZO2 and Microstreamer used in conjunction.

 

I got the HRT Microstreamer a while ago, and while it has some pros (clarity, highs extension), it is downright bass anemic imo. Point is, I need more bass. 

 

I was thinking of something like this 

 

PC >>> HRT Microstreamer >>> ZO2 >>>> Sig DJ

 

My question is, would this setup be idiotic? From ClieOS's sub-$200 shootout, the ZO2 is one of the worst sounding amps in this group. So, would it be stupid to use the Microstreamer as a DAC only, and use the ZO2 as bass boost?

 

The intention is to maintain the positive qualities of the Microstreamer and add bass, but I am thinking I would lose the clarity from the Microstreamer if I use it as DAC only.

 

really?  You find it to be "bass anemic"?

This is why I always insist (as did Harry Pearson himself) that there is no such thing as "best" in audio.

As my "best" will be different from another person's "best."  Now, I'm not claiming the MS to be the best of anything,

but I would never imagine to label it as "bass anemic."

 

That said: I also don't doubt your experience!  If it sounds that way to you, and you need more bass, by all means I suggest

finding a solution for that.

 

We all interpret differently at the end of the day, which is why I always try to insist that my readers check out the gear I cover

for themselves, and to trust their own ears!

 

I've actually used the HRT microStreamer to drive my LCD3's while on vacation (this was before my trusty CEntrance HiFi-M8 - new review HERE,

or even my Sony PHA-1) and in my office from time to time (including during the review) and I found the bass to be authoritative

and engaging - not to mention pretty accurate - 

 

especially after I played one of my own tracks through it (just a little tech house track released on wax through Listen to Reason records that

I co-wrote, produced, mixed, and mastered - under our Seamless Satori moniker, called "Soultek").  This is one of my sonic acid tests, as I know

that track as well as you can know a cut.  I thought the bass was surprisingly close, sure, a little light because of it's dimunitive size, but it was

very close to dead-on.

 

All that said - I hate when people try to convince others that what they're hearing is gospel, and then a never-ending argument ensures.

I'm sorry you found it anemic in the bass.  I also love the combination of my ALO Pan Am and microStreamer as DAC - as a suggestion.

post #509 of 1013
Quote:
Originally Posted by erod View Post
 

My question is, would this setup be idiotic? From ClieOS's sub-$200 shootout, the ZO2 is one of the worst sounding amps in this group. So, would it be stupid to use the Microstreamer as a DAC only, and use the ZO2 as bass boost?

 

In the shootout, the amps are judged mainly by how accurate and transparent they are, so coloration is essentially not a good thing. However, since ZO2 is a bass booster first and an amp second, coloration is actually what it is good at, thus it is kind of a handicap for the ZO2 in the shootout. The ZO3 is coming though, you might want to hold on to the thought and pay attention to the digiZoid thread.

post #510 of 1013
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