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post #766 of 772
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Originally Posted by volly View Post
 

So how long did you actually listen to the momentums? and you're comparing them to your M80's which you've had for how long?

It was an audio-specialty store with an area with nice comfy lougne chairs you can sit in while demoing the headphones.  I sat and listened to the Momentums, the Sony MDR-1A, the PSB M4U1, and the Sennheiser HD 558 each for about 15 to 20 minutes, with a variety of tracks from different genres.  I listened the Momentums for the shortest time, probably just short of a quarter-hour, before I just couldn't stand them anymore.  But I honestly was starting to feel like I couldn't' stand them within thirty seconds of putting them on.  I listened to part of Beethoven's Ninth, some rap by Wu Tang Clan, some Delta Blues by Son House, and some old-school Red Hot Chili Peppers (from back when they were still funk-jazz influenced) on them, and I thought that with all the tracks it made them sound closed-in and unremarkable.  This is opposed to my V-Moda M-80's which I absolutely adored from the very moment I first put them on and hit the play button.  Also opposed to the HD558 which while they didn't have much bass, did the mids and highs spectacularly, and had great soundstage (but of course, they're open-backed, so that isn't fair to compare to the other ones, really), and to the Sony MDR-1A which I thought sounded nice and warm and fun but with very good detail and sound stage.  Then, there were the M4U1's, which I thought did everything SPECTACULARLY, including sound-stage which somehow managed to be almost as good as the HD558 despite the M4U1 being close-backed.  Overall, the only two I liked more than the V-Moda M-80's I already have were the MDR-1A and the M4U1, and I found the Momentums entirely unremarkable.

Honestly?  I think the pair they have there in the store MIGHT be some kind of dud, or something, becuase it DIDN'T have many good qualities to the sound.

post #767 of 772
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Originally Posted by goodyfresh View Post

Ugh.  Not to mention the fact that I think the guys at Sennheiser were tripping on acid or something and thought they were designing headphones for people from the Shire in Middle Earth, i.e. Hobbits with teeny-tiny ears.

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post #768 of 772
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Originally Posted by goodyfresh View Post
 

It was an audio-specialty store with an area with nice comfy lougne chairs you can sit in while demoing the headphones.  I sat and listened to the Momentums, the Sony MDR-1A, the PSB M4U1, and the Sennheiser HD 558 each for about 15 to 20 minutes, with a variety of tracks from different genres.  I listened the Momentums for the shortest time, probably just short of a quarter-hour, before I just couldn't stand them anymore.  But I honestly was starting to feel like I couldn't' stand them within thirty seconds of putting them on.  I listened to part of Beethoven's Ninth, some rap by Wu Tang Clan, some Delta Blues by Son House, and some old-school Red Hot Chili Peppers (from back when they were still funk-jazz influenced) on them, and I thought that with all the tracks it made them sound closed-in and unremarkable.  This is opposed to my V-Moda M-80's which I absolutely adored from the very moment I first put them on and hit the play button.  Also opposed to the HD558 which while they didn't have much bass, did the mids and highs spectacularly, and had great soundstage (but of course, they're open-backed, so that isn't fair to compare to the other ones, really), and to the Sony MDR-1A which I thought sounded nice and warm and fun but with very good detail and sound stage.  Then, there were the M4U1's, which I thought did everything SPECTACULARLY, including sound-stage which somehow managed to be almost as good as the HD558 despite the M4U1 being close-backed.  Overall, the only two I liked more than the V-Moda M-80's I already have were the MDR-1A and the M4U1, and I found the Momentums entirely unremarkable.

Honestly?  I think the pair they have there in the store MIGHT be some kind of dud, or something, because it DIDN'T have many good qualities to the sound.

Fair enough Goodyfresh, at the end of the day as long as your happy with what you have, then you can't go wrong. 

 

I've had my momentum's for a while now and still quite impressed with the sound within the circle of headphones that I have. 

 

I actually had a similar experience with a set of MDR-1A in a store down my way and wasn't impressed by the Sony's at all. Upon reflection, the setup that this store had was terrible compared to what I was using at home. But still I won't write-off the Sony's just yet because of one experience I had at the time. 

 

Back to the sound of the momentum's, yes they are a closed headphone and the sound will never sound like an open airy set. But the sound quality and comfort (for me) makes a worth while purchase, I won't be giving them up anytime soon. 

 

The momentum's do have a rather warm sound signature but with my fairly neutral setup, it's a welcome and pleasing sound, perhaps the Fiio X3ii isn't such a good pairing?

 

This hobby is a fun and fascinating one, everyone has their own personal preferences! 

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Originally Posted by jimmers View Post
 

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Keep in mind though that even with them being shaped like that, their ears are STILL tiny.  Because the guys are like, three and a half feet tall!

Also, I was talking abotu Hobbits in the books, who were never once described as having strangely-shaped ears.  I like the books more than the movies, not that the movies werent' great, but they took some liberties with aspects of the story (such as Hobbit-ears, for example :p).

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Fair enough Goodyfresh, at the end of the day as long as your happy with what you have, then you can't go wrong. 

 

I've had my momentum's for a while now and still quite impressed with the sound within the circle of headphones that I have. 

 

I actually had a similar experience with a set of MDR-1A in a store down my way and wasn't impressed by the Sony's at all. Upon reflection, the setup that this store had was terrible compared to what I was using at home. But still I won't write-off the Sony's just yet because of one experience I had at the time. 

 

Back to the sound of the momentum's, yes they are a closed headphone and the sound will never sound like an open airy set. But the sound quality and comfort (for me) makes a worth while purchase, I won't be giving them up anytime soon. 

 

The momentum's do have a rather warm sound signature but with my fairly neutral setup, it's a welcome and pleasing sound, perhaps the Fiio X3ii isn't such a good pairing?

 

This hobby is a fun and fascinating one, everyone has their own personal preferences! 

It's funny, your preferences seem to be just about the OPPOSITE of mine :p 

 

And I don't think my experience has much to do with my Fiio X3ii, because this thing has a VERY neutral frequency response.  I know because I tested it. . .I took the USB cable for the X3ii and plugged it into my computer to use the X3ii as a DAC (which gives the same response as the X3ii on its own, by the way, as long as its getting bit-perfect input from the computer, and incidentally also VASTLY improves upon my computer's sound-quality), then took a 3.5-to-3.5 cable and plugged the output from the X3ii into the line-in on a Creative Sound Blaster 1095 external sound-card my friend had been lending me, which I had plugged in to another USB on the computer.  Then, I ran the RightMark Audio Analyzer Benchmarking program with output from the Fiio X3ii via ASIO, input from the line-in on the Sound Blaster, and the frequency response graph I ended up getting was REMARKABLE.  Namely, in the entirety of the audible frequency range from 20Hz to 20kHz, the variation in response never varied by more than 1.2 decibels, and that was only at the extreme ends of hte spectrum. . .between 25hz and 15khz, the variation was less than 0.4db!  This is opposed to the response from the Sound Blaster itself, which varied by about 2.5 decibels (still very good, mind you :p), and the one from my computer's onboard Realtek sound, which was AWFUL and varied by about 10 decibels or more in some parts of the treble and bass ranges!  Keep in mind that my computer has built-in Beats Audio (UGH, seriously), but that I de-activated the Beats Audio in the control-panel for the test I did of the onboard sound.  I also did another test of the on-board, this time having it use ASIO4ALL, and it was much better. . .no more than 4.5db variation, the VAST majority of which was now almost entirely in the low-bass between 20 and 28hz.

post #770 of 772
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Originally Posted by goodyfresh View Post
 

I got a chance to demo these in a store the other day.  Unless the pair I tried is a dud, or these somehow don't pair well with my Fiio X3ii (which seems silly and impossible), then I find the sound on the Momentums to be a SUPREME disappointment.  Sure, there's good detail and the frequency-response, if anything, is decent, but the soundstage sounds SO closed-in, even compared to other closed-back headphones, and the dynamics sound super-duper artificial to me.  Ugh.  Not to mention the fact that I think the guys at Sennheiser were tripping on acid or something and thought they were designing headphones for people from the Shire in Middle Earth, i.e. Hobbits with teeny-tiny ears.

I MUCH prefer the sound and build of my lovely V-Moda M-80s :)

 

it would depend on where you demoed them.

 

I found that the ones at best buy and future shop are in the worst condition possible

 

their either :

 

1) bent out of shape (so its ridiculously loose on the head)

2) the drivers have been deformed from people blasting the music at ear deafening volumes.

3) they aren't properly handled and replaced (the best buy closest to me has had the same momentums for the last year and a half.. and it was already broken back then.... soo yea...

 

anyway

give them another shot and another place, and see if your opinion changes

 

they could just be not sound signature if anything. so that's perfectly fine =) just look for another (theirs plenty out there)!

post #771 of 772
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Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post
 

 

it would depend on where you demoed them.

 

I found that the ones at best buy and future shop are in the worst condition possible

 

their either :

 

1) bent out of shape (so its ridiculously loose on the head)

2) the drivers have been deformed from people blasting the music at ear deafening volumes.

3) they aren't properly handled and replaced (the best buy closest to me has had the same momentums for the last year and a half.. and it was already broken back then.... soo yea...

 

anyway

give them another shot and another place, and see if your opinion changes

 

they could just be not sound signature if anything. so that's perfectly fine =) just look for another (theirs plenty out there)!


It is a specialty high-end audio store that only has one location in this town where people go and pay them tens of thousands of dollars to design custom home-entertainment systems.  The store carries summit-fi products like the Senn HD800 and Audeze planar magnetic cans.  So for SOME reason I doubt that the customers, and DEFINITELY the management and employees, at that store would have somehow mistreated the headphones :p

post #772 of 772
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Originally Posted by goodyfresh View Post
 


It is a specialty high-end audio store that only has one location in this town where people go and pay them tens of thousands of dollars to design custom home-entertainment systems.  The store carries summit-fi products like the Senn HD800 and Audeze planar magnetic cans.  So for SOME reason I doubt that the customers, and DEFINITELY the management and employees, at that store would have somehow mistreated the headphones :p

 

is that so? well if that's the case! it might either be the small earcups (its small for a full size headphone).

 

but otherwise, it might not be the signature for you! =) that's okay!

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