Originally Posted by KamijoIsMyHero
its hard to tell if it really is hip-hop then or they are just using rap as part of their music(nothing wrong with that of course), this is why I tend to shy away from hip-hop other than english based ones, hip-hop is a lyric based genre, if you can't understand the technical parts of their lyrics, then its hard to tell if they are really following the hip-hop standard
and don't come at me with the "it still sounds good with a hip-hop element," I understand that for people that like hip-hop and other genres
that's not much at all
Gave this topic some thought and tried to understand why I prefer Korean rap/hip hop over Jpns as well as rest of Asias. Although i don't agree wholeheartedly that there is such a thing as a "hip-hop standard" that should be followed, there is not doubt certain elements/ styles/ sounds of rap music which makes it more "hip hop". This parallels that "real" vs. "fake" hip hop discussion not just in that the English/ American forms are seen as more "legit" as compared to outsider foreign "wanna-be/ fake" forms but also that mainstream hip pop vs the underground backpacker aspects of it as well.
To me Jpnese "hip hop," and this could be said for most of Asia as well has this "Asian pop" overtone to it which makes it just too Asian sounding as exemplified by all the Jpnese hip hop MVs from all the previous posts. Not that that is a bad thing per se but it does make it seem less "legit" compared to their American/ English counterparts. This is similar to what Kami stated above, but I don't see hip hop as solely a "lyric based genre" because if you are a big hip hop head you will instantly "know" when you hear great hip hop/ rap, a gut feeling if you may. What I am trying to say is that hip hop is not only defined by its "technical parts of their lyrics" but is also defined by its overall musicality which is derived from all the elements/ instruments that are used. Lyrics is just one component of that. Hence, even though I don't understand a single word when I listen to non-English hip hop I can still dig it due to its hip hop musicality.
I guess that is the basis for my Korean hip hop bias because for me it just sounds more "hip hop" and "legit" when compared to the rest of Asia. Sonically you can hear the "realness" in Korean hip hop, because there is direct correlation in the elements that are used to what we would now consider as that "Classic Hip Hop" sound. No doubt there is a lot of sh!tty Korean hip hop out there, but amount of talent that is harbored in Korean hip hop scene despite its small niche in Korean society is massive. Korean hip hop, where it lacks in quantity, is made up by quality. Sadly this could not be said for the rest of Asia because both quantity and quality are lacking. Despite the popularity of rap/ hip hop in Jpn, I find it extremely difficult to find quality artists that appeals to me. A lot of the successful acts such as M-Flo, Zeebra, AI, etc just can't compare to what Korean hip hop has to offer. That is why it was great to see many Jpnese hip hop MVs posted here, because for me it is extremely difficult to find good Jpnese hip hop with that real classic hip hop feel. Despite I loved all the Jpn MVs that were posted, it still has that Asian pop overtone which can sound generic and too poppy at times.
Alright i guess i should end my tirade of Asian hip hop with some lovely Korean Hip Hop. LoL
@Danny @Dsnuts since you guys have those godly ATH AD900000000000000Xs can you do me a huge favor and endure this torture test of mine??? I tried to listen to this Jazzyfact album numerous times before but could not really get into it, and yes it is in Korean. But when I listened to it with my HM5 modded S500 it sounded so amazing that i am now hooked. Been finding myself re-listening to it a lot these days and what I realized is that the HM5 modded S500 has a bigger soundstage and better instrument separation than my modded portable set of S500s, hence making jazzy beats a lot more enjoyable. Can you'll do me a big favor and listen to this Jazzyfact album and tell me how it sounds on those ATH ADs please? Maybe test it out on those JVC FXZs as well if you end up linking the album.
DL link to that Jazzyfact album in 320kbps: http://purplemtl.blogspot.com/2011/09/jazzyfact-lifes-like.html
It should be very accessible since there are tons of English lines peppered through out the album. Here are a few sample tracks of the album.
Bonus track for all you...............................................................................since this is the Troll Headphone Club.
Edited by sfwalcer - 1/27/13 at 2:14pm