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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post


Those KC06's are really damned sweet. Possibly even surpass the mighty mt300's! Seriously, I love those birds.

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yeppp dem KC06 birds are no joke and more than does justice to all the hip hop that i listen to. In fact i got meself 2 sets of them birds, one gold one silver. :ph34r:

 

 

 

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Couldn't agree more. Didn't know that new song existed, nice to see that it's not another "Our government is terrible, here's my opinion on foreign affairs".

 

Any OnCue or Hi-Rez fans here?  Majority of their stuff actually has some substance to it lyrically.  Also, Bob Dylan is one of the best rappers of all time.  As all the cool kids say today, he spits absolute fire with this "bars".  Right?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYajHZ4QUVM

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Get that dusty black and white ish outta' here. Dat Bob Dylan rap needs a trap beat remix tbh. : P

 

He sure was spitting fyre/ troof there though, nice one. Meng political hip hop was the only thing i listen to initially when i got into this genre so being political and coming with a message on a track is not always a turn off.  But one has to have a fine balance of catchiness, political messages, etc etc in an effortless way in order to make music work. I mean you don't just listen to music just to learn/ grow as a person but for enjoyment as well. If it ain't fun and is all preachy and ish, it ain't gonna work no matter how powerful/ wonderful your ideas/ messages are.

 

Old Lupe tracks was able to achieve this fine balance for me, but his more recent stuff is a bit off it seems.

 

 

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I mean, i listen to a lot of jazz, although lately less, i do like horns, quite a bit. That song has a weak blues-ish sounding horn and it just sound ridiculous in the track. 

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C'mon it ain't THAT bad right??? But then again i don't listen to a lot of jazz nor blues. :  (

 

So i'll take your words for it, but wait do your arse even listen to hip hop meng??? :rolleyes:

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yeppp dem KC06 birds are no joke and more than does justice to all the hip hop that i listen to. In fact i got meself 2 sets of them birds, one gold one silver. :ph34r:

 

 

 

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Get that dusty black and white ish outta' here. Dat Bob Dylan rap needs a trap beat remix tbh. : P

 

He sure was spitting fyre/ troof there though, nice one. Meng political hip hop was the only thing i listen to initially when i got into this genre so being political and coming with a message on a track is not always a turn off.  But one has to have a fine balance of catchiness, political messages, etc etc in an effortless way in order to make music work. I mean you don't just listen to music just to learn/ grow as a person but for enjoyment as well. If it ain't fun and is all preachy and ish, it ain't gonna work no matter how powerful/ wonderful your ideas/ messages are.

 

Old Lupe tracks was able to achieve this fine balance for me, but his more recent stuff is a bit off it seems.

 

 

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C'mon it ain't THAT bad right??? But then again i don't listen to a lot of jazz nor blues. :  (

 

So i'll take your words for it, but wait do your arse even listen to hip hop meng??? :rolleyes:

 

What ever you do don't search for a "dubstep" remix of anything because they're out their and they're all pretty cringe worthy.  I totally agree with message and sound balance, well put.  That being said I also get a lot of enjoyment  my sister gets a lot of enjoyment from the stereotypical type of artists - Little Jon, Rick Ross, etc all bring me and my sister great pleasure.  You see I have a 1977 nova (which was apparently the go to car for drug dealers in in the 80s) and we enjoy rolling through our well kept, low crime rate community blasting "I Don't Give a *****" and other poorly produced but beautifully written songs.

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What ever you do don't search for a "dubstep" remix of anything because they're out their and they're all pretty cringe worthy.  I totally agree with message and sound balance, well put.  That being said I also get a lot of enjoyment  my sister gets a lot of enjoyment from the stereotypical type of artists - Little Jon, Rick Ross, etc all bring me and my sister great pleasure.  You see I have a 1977 nova (which was apparently the go to car for drug dealers in in the 80s) and we enjoy rolling through our well kept, low crime rate community blasting "I Don't Give a *****" and other poorly produced but beautifully written songs.


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you glorious mofos you!!! :beerchug:

 

THUG LYFE FO' LYFE!!! But 1st thing 1st though, pics of the whip or it didn't happen.

 

Wanna see my sexcee whip.....

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meh, can't get into fat joe for the lyfe of me.

 

Have you listened to him pre "lean back" era? I believe he changed to a considerably wacker ghostwriter around that time. He was fine when Pun was still around.

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Have you listened to him pre "lean back" era? I believe he changed to a considerably wacker ghostwriter around that time. He was fine when Pun was still around.

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yeah mean when he was known as lean joe instead of..... bad joke but you know what i mean. ;)

 

Don't think i listened to much hip hop back then, or at least seriously anyways so yeah...... no never heard his OG stuff.

 

Care to link a few gems that you love from his pre "lean back" dayz???

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He is actually leaner now than he was back then, I mean just look at this guy try to play bball here lol

 

 

a classic

 

DITC era

 

 

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C'mon it ain't THAT bad right??? But then again i don't listen to a lot of jazz nor blues. :  (

 

So i'll take your words for it, but wait do your arse even listen to hip hop meng??? :rolleyes:

 

 

Yeah of course, or else I wouldn't waste my time in this thread. Although until someone introduced me to tech n9ne 6-7 years ago i thought all rap was utter sh*t. 

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

Any input on this track. Pretty catchy tbh. Not bad not bad.....

 

 

 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

"Why is this guy so CHEAP with his production? Worst beats in hip hop history. SMH, and no one better reply with that "you're suppose to appreciate the lyrics, not the beat" bullsh!t"

 

"you're suppose to appreciate the lyrics, not the beat" - that's actually in my siggy although reworded more poetically.

 

The horn sounds poorly sampled if it was a sample anyway. Then abused into the beat like it was drum sample smh.

 

 

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Originally Posted by jaybird123 View Post
 

 

Yeah of course, or else I wouldn't waste my time in this thread. Although until someone introduced me to tech n9ne 6-7 years ago i thought all rap was utter sh*t. 

Can you post modern Jazz sampled hip-hop songs? I actually have a hard time finding them nowadays.

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Can you post modern Jazz sampled hip-hop songs? I actually have a hard time finding them nowadays.

 

Beanie Sigel's latest album "This Time" has a modern jazz feel to it. I dig it, but some don't...

 


Edited by Change is Good - 6/22/14 at 5:35pm
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lol I miss one hyphen and it changes what I meant. I meant "modern Jazz-sampled hip-hop songs" or newer/modern artist that employ jazz-samples. I don't have enough knowledge about jazz to be able to tell the difference between modern and non-modern recordings to be honest. 

 

It was a good song and is the type I am looking for actually.

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Originally Posted by KamijoIsMyHero View Post
 

lol I miss one hyphen and it changes what I meant. I meant "modern Jazz-sampled hip-hop songs" or newer/modern artist that employ jazz-samples. I don't have enough knowledge about jazz to be able to tell the difference between modern and non-modern recordings to be honest. 

 

It was a good song and is the type I am looking for actually.

Like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VVv5cORIOc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHF4N6-prWo&list=PL3BBD99CE5E77B36C&index=15

 

And probably my favorite song of his:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOm4m-lb9tw

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Yes, it sounds nice, looking for more as well.

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Hahaha that hyphen changes everything. Personally, modern-jazz is utter sh*t as well, but thats a different story. And no, I personally can't because imo they typically aren't used frequently. What is more common now is just straight up rapping over jazz played by a band, instead of being sampled. If not jazz, then jazz/funk inspired music. Such as galactic or the roots, but galactic doesn't have many albums with rapping in it as they are mostly a jam band. Im very much a purist when it comes to jazz, so if its implented nicely in other music I'll listen, otherwise something like that lupe song just ruins the entire song for me. 

 

heres a galactic track with a brass band playing in it. 

 

 

 

gang starr uses some jazz  in this, if it is only for a short period of time in place of a chorus. It to is played instead of sampled, but closer to what you asked. 


Edited by jaybird123 - 6/22/14 at 9:00pm
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Originally Posted by KamijoIsMyHero View Post
 

Yes, it sounds nice, looking for more as well.

Logic has a bunch of tracks that sample Sinatra, "One" and "Just a Man" come to mind.  "500 Days of Summer" by Logic samples "Nothing's Burning" too.  Can't really name too many rap artists that sample jazz.  Electronic music is a different story.

 

EDIT: Sinatra isn't really modern.... I also completely forgot about Galactic, probably because most of their stuff doesn't have rapping over it (Thank god)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjYq9vGsLIA&feature=kp

http://vimeo.com/9741356

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO4XSObbLvE


Edited by linglingjr - 6/22/14 at 9:30pm
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Originally Posted by jaybird123 View Post
 

Hahaha that hyphen changes everything. Personally, modern-jazz is utter sh*t as well, but thats a different story. And no, I personally can't because imo they typically aren't used frequently. What is more common now is just straight up rapping over jazz played by a band, instead of being sampled. If not jazz, then jazz/funk inspired music. Such as galactic or the roots, but galactic doesn't have many albums with rapping in it as they are mostly a jam band. Im very much a purist when it comes to jazz, so if its implented nicely in other music I'll listen, otherwise something like that lupe song just ruins the entire song for me. 

 

heres a galactic track with a brass band playing in it. 

 

 

 

gang starr uses some jazz  in this, if it is only for a short period of time in place of a chorus. It to is played instead of sampled, but closer to what you asked. 

 

post those ones..I haven't heard of anybody straight up rapping over a jazzband that isn't boombap tuned

 

That Juvenile track is sick. I am assuming there has to be more similar of that nature with New Orleans rappers. I am pretty familiar with Guru's Jazzmatazz series although I have feeling he was more fond of slow-mid tempo recordings as it suited is flow the best.

 

 

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Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post
 

Logic has a bunch of tracks that sample Sinatra, "One" and "Just a Man" come to mind.  "500 Days of Summer" by Logic samples "Nothing's Burning" too.  Can't really name too many rap artists that sample jazz.  Electronic music is a different story.

Sinatra is jazz? Didn't even know. The only works I know from Logic are the ones posted by sfwalcer since he stans him hard but he slacks so much now a days and barely posts anything. Except some random KPOP girlgroup and crappy Lupe tracks now and then.

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