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post #151 of 321

The 463s will have a much better much more accurate soundstage and imaging. I suspect this will be true of any quality open vs closed headphone; physics only allows for so much and certain types of 'bounce' for soundwaves in an enclosed vs an opened space.

 

Crossed off "better" because that's my personal opinion. I find that great soundstage and presentation is one of my most valued traits, which may not be the same for you/others.


Edited by BBEG - 3/24/13 at 12:30am
post #152 of 321

are they using the same drivers?

post #153 of 321

Couldn't say. I haven't disassembled either.

post #154 of 321
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Originally Posted by Xprime4 View Post

are they using the same drivers?

 

No, they're at least cosmetically different.  The 463 thread has a pic of the drivers, they look quite different.

 

I do sort of want the 463's as well but some of the posts I read made it sound like the headband construction was really poor.  If I find the right price though... I love closed headphones at work but at home they just don't work out as well (wife yells something, I don't hear it).

post #155 of 321

First impression of the EFi's with Hifiman velours is "veiled", with reduced bass. I'll have to wait until the weekend before I'm able to do any critical listening to compare the Shure pads to the Hifiman velours and leathers. I have a sneaky suspicion the leathers will boost bass like they did on the MH463's, which will be interesting on a closed headphone.

post #156 of 321
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Originally Posted by BBEG View Post

First impression of the EFi's with Hifiman velours is "veiled", with reduced bass. I'll have to wait until the weekend before I'm able to do any critical listening to compare the Shure pads to the Hifiman velours and leathers. I have a sneaky suspicion the leathers will boost bass like they did on the MH463's, which will be interesting on a closed headphone.

Did you put the original cloth covers back on under the velours?

post #157 of 321

I never took them off. Been tempted to but too busy elsewhere in my hobbies.

post #158 of 321

I bought the Somic EFi82 MT on 3-13-2013, paid $14.56 for expedited shipping, via epacket, 5-10 days delivery estimate.  They shipped on 3-17-2013, and they are sitting in customs in China since 3-19-2013.......do the math, they are not even in the US, 2 days late so far, and no sign of them moving.

 

Do not buy from Alibaba.com unless you are prepared to wait!

post #159 of 321

 

Looking at the picture above, some of you might guess that these Somics recently took a quick trip to Minnesota... and you would be correct. :)

 
When they returned home, I put my 840 pads on them and for sure, recabling gives you everything you would expect: Stronger bass, a fuller mid range and a wide sound stage where all the vocals and instruments are just where you expect them to be, side to side and front to back.
 
But when you put Hifiman pads on, the real magic begins!
 
But first, those of you with 840 pads, if you hold them up to the light, you will notice that that the dampening material is quite opaque, the light passing through is pretty dim. In the same way, this material allows the lower half of the frequency band to pass through directly, but the upper half is significantly attenuated, or "dimmed".
 
On Shure 840s, I would assume that the naked output of their drivers must pretty bright, with very strong highs, so this material is necessary to tame the highs, resulting in a more balanced presentation. However, it would seem that the Somic drivers are nowhere near as bright as the Shures. So when we listen to the Somics with 840 pads, we notice a very full and lush lower mid range and bass, but I have also noticed that the highs and upper harmonics are too muted. As delicious as the vocals were, cymbals never sounded right to me.
 
I don't know how much credit to give to the engineers at Somic, but it is not unreasonable to believe that the dampening cloth glued onto their drivers was selected to provide a relatively balanced frequency spectrum. I would be willing to bet this is part of the reason why some people prefer pads with no dampening material, such as the Philips CitiScape Uptown pads, and using the stock dampening material, to the 840s.
 
So now, back to the magic... Take the 840s off, put the stock dampening material back on, and then the Hifiman pads. First impressions, you will likely think something is missing. And something is missing!  That overly lush mid range is gone resulting in a much more balanced presentation - which might sound too thin at first...
 
Give yourself a few days to allow your mind to wrap itself around this new sound. Listen to all your favorite music, and I think you just might be as stunned and pleased as I am now. 
 
Recabling plus hifiman pads have transformed these headphones from very good to AWESOME! :)
post #160 of 321

Nice picture, and impressions with the new cable....hearing is believi'n!

post #161 of 321

I am confused at where you buy this from?  Aliexpress.com has multiple suppliers but the specifications vary.  The frequency range is different and there is 64 ohm and 32 ohm versions?  Where do you find a legit pair of these?

post #162 of 321

I purchased mine on eBay in mid January:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Somic-EFI-82MT-3-5mm-Stereo-Headphone-for-Computer-Laptop-DJ-headsets-/221183006919?ViewItem=&item=221183006919&nma=true&si=lywurhZyY19upKmxisCt7e9oA5Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 
This is the 64 ohm version. However, that listing has expired and it doesn't appear that they have been relisted. It might be worthwhile to contact the vendor, Portworld, and ask if he expects to relist these anytime soon. Otherwise, Aliexpress may be your only other option.
post #163 of 321
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Originally Posted by boliud View Post

Aliexpress.com has multiple suppliers but the specifications vary.  The frequency range is different and there is 64 ohm and 32 ohm versions?

 

I looked at a listing that had 20 Hz - 20kHz/32 ohms listed in the specs but the box in the photo was identical to what I received (10 Hz - 28 kHz/64 ohms).  I suspect the listing's specs are just wrong.

 

Got my HM5 pads.  They fit the cups really well despite being oblong.  Comfy too.  Can't comment too much on the sound quality difference but the isolation is lower, which is good in my case.


Edited by zhyla - 3/31/13 at 11:15am
post #164 of 321

Yeah my old headphones broke (Panasonic RP-HTF890) last week so I'm thinking about the JVC HARX900 or Tasktar Hi2050 or Takstar Pro 80/Gemini HSR-1000 or this.  I'm just looking for a bang for the buck headphone that is authentic and could pair well with my Fiio E11.  How long did shipping take for the Somic EFI-82 ?  Sound quality is most important to me, then comfort and durability.  I have old pads I might be able to use from the RP-HTF890's.  I prefer a more neutral balanced sound so I can hear good separation.  Listen to mostly various rock and electronic/dance

post #165 of 321

I got curious about what other Somic headphones are out there besides the EFI-82MT and the MH-463.  There are hundreds of models on their website but I went thru and found the other models with 50mm drivers.  Both of these can be had on Aliexpress for similar pricing ($30-40).  Just figured I'd throw that out there for the adventurous...

 

DT-531:

 

http://www.somic-elec.com/product/20100823/416.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

A100:

 

http://www.somic-elec.com/product/20100525/275.html

 

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