You know, it was just one of those timing things. I had been reading about the ones made in Stuggart and decided to do a search and low and behold an Italian ebayer seller had two for sale.
I emailed him to ascertain they were indeed the Stuggart made ones, he confirmed and my pay pal payment was with him in seconds! They are the quietes tubes I have, black plates and the sound is sublime! I may have found another pair of power tube ones I am just ascertaining they are indeed Stuggart.
Everything written abut these tubes is accurate, they dig out detail and yet are so musical and smooth, just wonderful tubes!
I NEED to give them a listen! I looked for them for months and nothing came up anywhere..... I might go hybrid in the future so I need to start looking for good options in the near future though 2 pairs of Lorenz Stuttgart would destroy my wallet. :P
LCD3 is superb. The first few times I gave them a go I was massively disappointed, but I'm realizing now that those assessments were unfair because what the 3 offers can not be really distinguished in bad listening conditions... The one thing that I notice the most is the 2 sounds like mush in comparison.