Seems like people always judge closed phones as being good despite their handicap instead of equal to open phones in the same price range. Does the soundstage suffer that much?
High End Closed phones "good for closed" or good period?
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Precisely, which is why there aren't nearly as many high-end closed headphones as open ones, because you need to sink in a lot more R&D for cup design/damping, and will have to end up pricing it higher than open headphones that perform just as well or better. All of that for the sake of isolation.